I saw a video showing DOT. Have that changed in any patch ?
hmm which shock is it from?
I dont recall zornhau shock or crown shock doing dot
Mineloader one, like this video https://youtu.be/Qfh_-v52Dz4
Wasn’t this debuff from this card you guys were talking?
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Interesting, that’s actually something new to learn since people don’t use that card much.
I think it’s a different shock compared to Zucken/Crown.
Wow!
Thanks for the video. It shows it pretty neatly.
BTW, the proc cards give the (card stars/3)% chance - does it have fractional parts (i mean if the card has 10 stars the chance will be 3.(3)% or will be rounded to just 3)?
In addition to my last question about SPR cards, I have anew one (yes, i never stop 
but in my turn, I always try to help players in the game with their questions I know answers).
Upgrading gems is a pang. Especially when trying to go over lvl5 - is there a way to farm abrasives? I checked all abrasives in the tos.net.tv database and it does not say where to get them (apart from some dailies (like the 270 cube or Uphill Defense).
3 of the cards means 10%.
like 3 rafenes = +10 all stats.
Alternate to abrasives — do challenge mode, feed useless gear to gems
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Thanks, this means that it is 3.3% for one 10-star card after all. I needed to know since I think about having 3 separate DOT cards.
I see…
I understand that things can be fed to gems as well. Just thought that abrasives can be obtained/ dropped somewhere (even with a relatively low chance).
Thank you for your answers. Now the only question whether Linkroller or Lavenzard Cards are the best for pardoner shop character remains
Hmm there’s two gimmicks that give abrasives, check my thread:
I haven’t tested lavenzards for shops but I think they don’t work, better wait for a real answer though
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Wow! Thank you - will check.
Does gimmick means a repeatable hidden quest (like dexter’s collection)?
Yes, I wrote how many times you can do a gimmick in the guide.
Edit: I just realized, I didn’t put how many times you could do it in the doc, but I remember it’s 3x a day for the evac abrasives.
And 3 or 5 times for the launcher in kadumel?
edit2: I read edit history, here you go:
Kadumel Cliff:
2 - Shooter game, Launcher(cube) (doable 4x a day)
Rewards:
Gem Abrasive, can be Basic, Intermediate, or Advanced
Achievement Points
Evac
2 - Pendulum (2x a day?)
Rewards:
Gem Abrasive Lv1, Lv 2, Lv3 OR Big Stamina Pill (thanks senpaikunchanperson for confirming on Lv1 Abrasives and Vodka for Lv3)
Big Stamina Pill
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Thanks a lot!
Will check this out.
To tell the truth, I am sick and tired of doing multiple Uphills up to 8 stage in the hope to get the 15,5k abrasive.
Following our discussion about the Mineloader card - I raised in to +10 and inserted. And, to tell the truth, I am disappointed and do not advise it in slot. The main reason is a very short period - 3s (just as it says in the description - i did hope it was a typo, since in the video the period was quite longer). Used almost all the cards I hamstered over the last 2 month :(…
Ah well, what’s done is done, and it is not that I have a number of Marnoxes crowding to be inserted after all.
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Just in case someone is curious - checked the Lavenzard card - the buff does not linger so it should not be considered for a shop pardoner and thus the only green option is Linkroller.
As for the abrasive gimmicks, I checked both and can say that the Evac one takes too much time to be considered as a daily (the chances of getting a stamina pill are also high, so the efficiency is even lower), though it may be a reasonable side activity when farming brown flowers. As for Kadumell Cliff, it is really easy/quick (with the Cursed Towers’ portal one may do 4 times within 2 mins) but the abrasives you get are just 300 points (with a low chance for 1200 one); so it might be useful but definitely not as a main (or even noticeable) gem points income.
I suppose my last question in this thread will actually be about it’s being closed 
I am quite sure that I shall have other questions in future and it is sad that the threads are auto-closed after 2 months. I dislike spawning threads but, because of the auto-close rule, it might be my only option, so I’d like to ask if it will be OK/allowed?
it should be, the auto closing rule is set up for newer threads. My fencer thread is like 2 years old already?
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