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Hakkapalle Class Synergy Discussion

You need the attribute for punji stake to make it work.

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Hakka at least shouldn’t have problems with future ranks. It’s R8, the game is supposedly only going up to R10, which would be C3 Hakka.

Still a hopeless class unless A) they fix mount requirements for rogue, or B) Hakka 2-3 is so overpowered it doesn’t even matter what classes you take before it.

Thank again… I didn’t notice the yellow lock on it… always thought it was either on / off mount… didn’t know it was restricted to mount

Still it’s just sad that most of the work was done by barrage+feint instead of Hakka skills

Yes, r8 archer is currently in a bad spot - unless you are reiter3/falcon1musket2.

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skills/30708 and they allow backstab on mount now.

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where did you get that info? i try to translate the site you provide,but i cant find the mount stuff,i only find the skill is allow to the stance of bow&sword

if rogue attack skill is allowed on mount ,then ranger&rogue is absolutely the best preparation for hackapell

basically,i am crafting some bd like:
A3 R3 FALCON1 hackapell

the only thing i am not sure is the falcon,cz i really like falcon c3,and i
think the c3 skill aiming is a nice way to solve the small hitbox problem which is bad for hackapell

but if i go with A2 R3 F3,then i cant get hackapell until r9

another choice is go hackapell first,likeA2 R3 F2 H1 and back to falcon c3 in r9

the most sad thing is:if the rank system is end up at r10 like everyone said,then i just cant mix falcon c3 & hackapell c3 stuff which is really a nice bd i think

new ktos update

Rogue: Backstab can now be used whilst mounted.

u know what to do.

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that is insane!!only the backstab?how about feint & Vendetta?

i think just backstab.

but i cant read the original text, so dont quote me.

thank you!!
this is a exciting news!
i ll try to find more info myself

Regardless of whether Rogue is compatible with Hackapell or not, I still think it’s a pointless class to pick barring PVP or in some specific builds that has Sapper/Scout etc, Rogue C1 for utility purpose. Even in PVP, which I personally for now at least, don’t see rogue centric builds performing that great anyways.

basically hakka is probably designed for a combo style gameplay including mounting and remounting

For that they need to put pet commands, or stances. Like passive and agressive, otherwise hakkapalle will have to chase his own companion to remount >.> IF the pet dont die during the process.

remount seem very impracticable unless we have auto mounting mechanism like auto weapon swap

Qs3>Rogue3>hackapell full str

Rogue3 is ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  balls. Rogue2 is also bad even with mounted Backstab. I badly want to play a Rogue-Hakka but it’s going to be an awful build, even if they make all Rogue skills usable mounted, because Rogue is awful.

The best Hakka build will involve QS3 or Fletcher3 unfortunately. It’s just going to be the same archer meta as we already have. Rogue would have to get some significant buffs for it to be otherwise. Or maybe the ability to cloak while mounted, that might give it a PVP niche at least - currently I don’t see Hakka being remotely viable in PVP, a melee archer without stealth is just going to die even with companion health bonus.

Rogue needs Vendetta to be a much stronger ability with a more impactful effect than +5 strength per level on kill. Low damage, single hit, long cooldown, weak effect, AND it has a charge time, this is just every bad feature of a skill combined into one.

Rogue also badly needs at least one new C3 skill (Burrow has no business being anything but a C1 Skill that caps at 5 points like Camo, and even then it would be bad) but at the same time, Rogue already has too many skills to level, they all scale in effect and duration so you’re going to have to sacrifice something somewhere - usually Evasion because even maxed its uptime is bad, but if they get a new C3 and Vendetta is buffed to be worthwhile, you’re going to have to start peeling points off of Backstab, Sneak Hit, or Lachrymator to make room.

Class has so many problems.

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hahaha thank you, I will give up this build :joy:

I won’t. I’ll just suffer and have a bad character so I can look cool.

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