Tree of Savior Forum

Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1465

  1. Going Hoplite for just Stabbing is wasteful. Truly wasteful, you can only use 1 every 25 sec. You can not utilize Finestra. Pierce is not so good.

  2. Rodo needs shield plus it’s required to go C2 for Slithering. I believe without its signature skill, Rodo C1 will be just okay for Fencer. Not so good, not so bad. Rodo and Fencer have meh synergy.

  3. Barb C1 has meh damage and obviously will fall of late game. The best things Barb C1 have to offer are Stun, +50 crit rate and 50% Slash. You will have about 15s to burst all HL skills. Okay, I kinda forgot HL when I posted that. I was just too sick of play Barb all day.

  4. Squire is great for solo play. Damage buff and repair are both great for Rapier. I prefer not to switch weapons these day. It’s laggy even I was switching in investory, hotkey or Alt+Z. No idea what’s with the game anymore. Not to mention my attachment with a specific weapon

@Palazzo: Sorry about the Barb, I was just sick of playing Barb all the time when I wrote that. After studying @corsiritsmeurbrother 's opinion, Barb suddenly becomes better than Squire

#1466

Why Low-Cross Cut? Bleeding damage is influenced by how much damage it deals.

Why High-Crown? Isn’t the INT/SPR reduction dependent only of the attribute? Is it because of the duration?

@hienng1991
No problem, we’re experimenting here. Also, Squire would do no good for me: I don’t mind having many Rapiers, and Arrest is similar to Hook (better than Hook, in my opinion) but alone doesn’t justify picking Squire, considering the competition for the post.

#1467

Montano does not require a shield. Stun + slow with 2 charges. It does not justify an entire rank but there’s manual block and the other skills are useful if you like wearing shields. I consider it better than pelt c1 if you don’t want neither HL nor SW c2 on your class advancement.

Rode is good for Fencer in 1v1. Most rank 4 classes have meh synergy with Fencer. Again, shield (Aias, namely one of the best) and manual block (plus Fencer high evasion) gives you a little tankiness. Shield Charge can also help you get near a high dex archer. Knocking down people also helps landing a hook at melee range.

Rode is not for damage (for now, at least). With Guardian nerf/buff, I consider it a better defensive rank than Pelt, specially for those who like shields, in PvP scenarios.

#1468

Cross Cut is only useful to place the debuff. Crap damage and scaling

@danielnito007:

Rodelero has meh damage for a rank 4 class. Pelt does have Umbo Blow for stun with 2 charges, not that bad. And there is Swashbuckling. However, I prefer not to take Pelt so late in the game so yeah Rode becomes a better defensive option. Well, invitation to parties is overrated anyway. Just solo all the way.

I am not sure about Rode helping landing a hook at close range. No room for Corsair in a Sw1>HL3>XX>Fencer 2

#1469

Trust me cross cut bleed is based on other way:
Cross cut lv 10:

Cross cut lv 5(with set cafrisun):

Crown 14 because I want it uptime.

#1470

Here guys, how Cross Cut’s Bleeding damage is calculated:

Edit: In the thread that I linked the post to, there’s a small discussion about Highlander and Cross Cut’s Bleeding - it seems that Venier Holy Damage increases it and those guys tested it true.

#1471

Its not that way, unless IMC changed it

Edit: Yes, all elemental damage increase bleed, not only holy.

#1472

@hienng1991

Rode is bad if you want damage. Period. :stuck_out_tongue:

#1473

Bleeding is useful on bosses if they can bleed. *Batman intensifies

But I doubt normal mobs can survive for 10s. It’s going to be the same as Wugu. By the time you finish casting all your skills, they would be dead already.

#1474

So guys, any comments of the High2 paths?

Sword1>High2>Barb1>Cors1>Fenc3
Sword1>High2>Barb1>Cors2>Fenc2

#1475

We don’t know how fencer 3 will fair and anything anyone can say about it is nothing but speculation. If you’re trying to make something for r8 you should wait until we have concrete info about the class instead of potentially idealized previews

#1476

Corsair 1 is good when paired with barb, I play Barb2>corsair>fencer 2 and I would say despite pouncing being good people underestimate dust devil a lot, it lacks aoe but it’s very strong given 3 charges where you could use all in a single cleave+lunge, this is while not taking damage on targets hit by dust devil.

#1477

For me there is only one scenario where some one could take HL2: SW3>HL2 other than that would screw up your build. So HL1 or 3.
Cors1 fot jolly roger and dust devil with your nice disable.
Corsair 2 DWA and Hexen.

#1478

Such nice damage enhancing attributes I have! thanks to how this game works I can’t really decide on a final character.

(but if imc finally decides to give gungho similar change to guardian, you know the drill, swordsman classes will soon be like wizard classes where c3 of your base class is very relevant)

#1479

I have a SW3 waiting for this improvement.
But if we get it I don’t know what build do.

I’m thinking in an AA char: SW3>HL/BARB1>COR2>DOP

#1480

Venier Recipe is mine! Probably will hold off on farming the other mats for now…Took 762 kills over 3 tries.

#1481

goodluck on your quest too mat XD

#1482

  1. Going squire is just as wasteful as going Hoplite, if not worse, that’s the problem. Stabbing is another pierce damage to be used for prep if sept etoiles/esquive is on CD and while the synergy lies in going hop 2 (albeit requires more swapping) I still find it a bit better than stopping at rodo 1.

  2. Going shield when we don’t even know what stance epee needs is a gigantic risk accounting Agressor attribute not even synergizing with shield, rodo 1 has NOTHING to offer in PvM (like I said, even stabbing and pierce does more than the debuffs that barely help in PvM, often times detrimental like knockback) until rodo 2 due to slithering and the strike damage increases, equally wasteful unless you PvP or go Rod 2 because if you want a defensive class for PvM just go hl 3 > pelt1 > fencer 2.

  3. +50 crit is still 2 level 5 green gems for better damage than rodo, also stun gives you more control than rodo knockbacks or lmao nodmg montano slow/scrambling stats in PvM. Flanco is slash too so if you ran out of HL skills you can spam it to squeeze as much dps as possible.

  4. Squire is great, until you realize you’re sacrificing an entire circle just to get 1/3rd of weapon/armor maintenance, a level 5 repair and arrest. Choose wisely in regards to this because you cannot change this circle later on while you can have enough silver for a squire 3’s services. I’d pick this over Corsair in PvE, but Jolly Roger is still something to consider.

#1483

Got bored, nothing to do. I’m just here to brag and show off my another Peta recipe. I hope someone will get talty

#1484

Today I got Flaconnade skill on my fencer and I’m disapointed.
So damn slow skill animation. Compose is slow too?