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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1727

Shinobi? I was thinking of making one. Well, I was thinking of making a grind character with Corsair C3, since rank 8 doesn’t add anything to Corsair I was just thinking of doing hop2 cor2 shinobi cor3 at rank 8. Problem is that Shinobi’s bunshins only clone specific skills and they are swordsman skills, not ideal. I hope they’ll rethink that. Kunai then Pistol shot with Bunshins. Sounds pretty good. While they are at it rework DWA from the ground up!

I like corsair as well but wouldn’t Crosscut and Skyline be better for DPS? Plus it gives you more to do, skillwise. Pelt Cor was my first thought though.

#1728

dps wise yes, but for my build I’ll let fencer do everything and everything else taken before fencer are supports. I can’t imagine dealing with 100k hp mage monsters without stuns, you’ll have to bash your way through and it might ruin positioning

#1729

How is Restrain? I thought Sw3 got Restrain buff quite a while ago, it should be somewhat useful in PvE. Surely not reliable as Helm but still decent

#1730

it’s good but the stun doesn’t even last long, it should be <1 sec iirc

reason why it’s good for cata is that they can restrain-rush things to death while moving, we can’t do that

#1731

Bruh, I’m hyped as hell. By the things are moving now, R8 might be sooner than we thought. Still holding on my silver and stat reset til I see fencer c3 skills. SW3 restraint buff is nuts. Still gonna hold on leveling a specific card too til I know if reaverpede and others will be obtainable.

#1732

Ah that’s why compared to 2s stun from Helm, Restrain is inferior.

Btw, what’s the new Concentration formula, I don’t see any difference in game

#1733

check the xml file I uploaded a few posts back, the patch is tomorrow

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#1734

Ah, I thought it’s today. No wonder why Concentration is still the same. A decent patch finally

#1735

Sounds like you need a Barb. Neither pelt, HL or corsair offer a stun. Though Corsair does have dust devil.

HL’s Crown could do the job being an anti magic “stun” given you invest enough Str. You can’t get it to 100% but at 10 it’s close enough. The issue is, can you hit the entire group with it. I haven’t really tested it on my HL just yet.

It’s true that Fencer is really self-sufficient given we have a 0cd skill.

#1736

dust devil is one of the best cc tools, it’s not resistable so far

#1737

Except when it doesn’t quite work and the mob still does something.

#1738

You have to use it before the mob does any animation, then you chain it. once the mob animation starts your dust devil will fail

#1739

How are you guys coping with the new guardian?

#1740

By removing it from my skill bar. :wink: Other option is to roll a character without Pelt. I might do both…

#1741

by not using it at all and abuse the new system by getting the evasion patch through cards, and maybe transcendence system

#1742

What was the card that gives evasion?

#1743

Not affected at all since I didn’t plan to make high dex to be super evasive tank. In fact, I’m waiting for phada to be craftable for my fencer.
I’m going to put around 110-120 dex investment with 2 phadas, and the rest of the dex compensated with ellagonos cards (+dex). Then I’ll try to start aiming for level 8 crit gems which should be decent enough crit rate with ballestra fente and my dex will not be too high to affect my cross guard.

#1744

Ellaganos says agility, it’s probably dex, so a Lv10 ella card would give you 10

#1745

We’ll find out tomorrow won’t we. If it’s 10 Dex per card, we can get 80 Dex out of it by rank 8. That’s not bad.

#1746

Wasted 5kk in silver and my damn magi didn’t go to +8. Anyone here experiencing a bad luck too?

Edit: Now got +8 lol.