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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

rip HL.
0cd skyliner will always be remembered…

Time to delete my highlander, it was there waiting for this buff that never came lol, I tried it out since people said highlander sucked with 3 charge skyliner and the third circle is merely for skull swing(which was true, I hated it myself)

This means that HL1>Barb3 is still the best all rounder path for doppel IMO

No one will buy that Highlander C3 costume anymore, will only have pretty but useless Skyliner. lol. Although the weapon stance is the real deal. That is how 2h swordsman should hold their swords.

deleted my hl cor already LoL
was planning to delete my pelt barb dopel to make hl2 barb2 dopel, but oh well, apparently I can continue on this doppel.

and wtf restrain gonna have 72% stun chance now with dmight and gems.

I think i’ll try a pel>hop2>cor3 again since pistol shot got buffed

But I’m glad they didn’t do a “str” only scaling with concentrate, there’s still the dex part for fencers.

When will we be in the same spot as others class…

Well we have sexy fencer so it’s okay ^^

This concentrate formula confuses me…

(str + dex * 0.04 * 0.02) * level

(100 + 100 * 0.04 * 0.02) * level
(FROM_STR + FROM_DEX) * LEVEL
( 100 + 0,08 ) * 15

Edit: wrong numbers

isn’t it 0.04? how did it become 0.06? in the patch notes it was 0.04. though I don’t understand korean. lol

its (0.04str+0.02dex)*(skill level - 1)
i wonder how does blessing get up to +1700 with this formula

my bad, 0.04, corrected.

So with 500 str (239 invested) what would make concentrate hit for
500 * 0.04 * 15 = 300
300 + 126 = 426
Add/Remove 20 damage per level in concentrate.

310 dex (239 invested):
310 * 0,02 * 15 = 93
93 + 126 = 219
Add/Remove 6,2 damage per level in concentrate.

Can someone explain Skyliner for me? I saw someone dealt 30k damage, how is that possible?

Let say if a normal end game HL can do 20k Skyliner, I can already see the OPness of a 0cd spamming SKyliner already

Are you sure about the formula? I think it’s

(assuming 300 str and 100 dex)

sword 3
(str * 0.04 + dex * 0.02) * (skill level -1 )
(300 * 0.04 + 100 * 0.02) * (15-1)
(12 + 2) * 14 = 196 + attributes + basic concentrate

sword 2
(str * 0.04 + dex * 0.02) * (skill level -1 )
(300 * 0.04 + 100 * 0.02) * (10-1)
(12 + 2) * 9 = 126 + attributes + basic concentrate

sword 1
(str * 0.04 + dex * 0.02) * (skill level -1 )
(300 * 0.04 + 100 * 0.02) * (5-1)
(12 + 2) * 4 = 56 + attributes + basic concentrate

oh it’s about the same, you are just missing skill level -1

Isn’t that the exact same? Except I missed -1 on level, which doesn’t affect anything really. Formula wise.

Copy paste you and replace numbers
(assuming 500 str and 0 dex)

sword 3
(str * 0.04 + dex * 0.02) * (skill level -1 )
(500 * 0.04 + 0 * 0.02) * (15-1)
(20 + 0) * 14 = 280 + attributes

20 per level, on 500 str.
12 per level on 300 str.

Edit: yeah, same :slight_smile:

damage come from attribute and high crit atk. you can reach almost 1,5k crit atk with highlander
1400 atk, DoV 10 -> 2800 atk
Skyliner 450atk -> 3250 atk
bleed -> 6500
crit -> 11250
then depends on your attribute, if you got 100% on skyliner, it will deal 22.5k each hit

nah I just got confused with the number mixing and realized you were only missing skill level -1, my bad

I suppose with the right build, this could be quite good!

I see, but how can a HL inflict Bleed? I saw nothing about Bleed on the class attribute (TOSbase)

PS: Holy crap, 45k DPS or 26k DPS minimum. No wonder why IMC nerfed it

Wow I deleted my highlander 2 days ago when I came back from hiatus…
But I also decided that my Hoplite Fencer will no longer be a thing…

Looking at what you get from Hoplite vs Barb, I honestly can’t look at Peirce and Stabbing + spear lunge as justification for giving up everything that barb offers. (ESPECIALLY after the Barb buffs come)
And the little bit extra Peirce coverage will likely be mitigated by Fencer c3 and/or matador.


@hienng1991

The cross-liner combo consists of Cross Cut inflicting a 10s Bleed then Highlander spamming Skyliner for double dmg.
This is especially potent when paird with Barb and/or Fencer as both can give +50% slash dmg = +75% if you have both.
Plus the armor bonus if vs the correct armor

I’m thinking of builds surrounding sword 3 and high str now lol, maybe

Sword 3 > HL1 (Cartar+Cross Guard+2H Sword mastery) > Barb 1 (Cleave Debuff) > Doppel 2

No warcry frenzy there to boost DOV, but in exchange, you get a VERY consistent damage boost that requires no setup at all

@hienng1991 Cross Cut or Shark Cutter item

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Crosscut
but it doesnt work agaisnt some type of monster, unlike normal bleed which work on everything.

26k if you got it to 100%, which is 37m silver, and if its crit, since with that kind of crit atk, you most likely have pretty low crit rate (around 250-ish)
not to mention skyliner poor range.

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