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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

fencer is not bad compared to sword based build.
fencers have the inferior increasing slash attack debuff and “pierce” armor break.
i think it boost slash damage by 50% same with spear lunge.

but yeah spear wielder is the top class.

thats the weird thing why increase slash :s fencer only has 1 slash skill and most of its damaging abilities are pierce… :c

At least they help out highlander and barb skills, so it isn’t that bad. Highlander’s cross guard pierce debuff is even worse if you got no future ranks to benefit from it, good thing it still roots the target

hah yea!

my build is sw3-p1-cor1-fencer2

banking on fencer3 being amazing. sw3 basically for PvP- max restrain and pain barrier

the great thing about fencer is that it doenst have to rely on earlier ranks for damage, like its good on its own!

Amen, but Lunge feels so… ocasional without highlander or barbarian to benefit from it. Do you feel like Double Slash is dealing enough damage with it? Somehow I find your build pretty solid on paper except for that one detail which isnt exactly a flaw. Cheers.

double slash quite OP.
I have sw3-pel-cor-fen at 18x.
double slash wo lunge doing 3k dmg, with lunge it’s almost 5k.

double slash is basically skyliner with higher base damage and longer cooldown

don’t know how much it boosts when enemies bleed though

and 35% crit rate.
my double slash almost always yellow number with mediocre dex

is that 3k/5k per hit or total for both hits?

per hit
that would be so bad if its total D;

fair enough. it’s just as strong as skyliner without bleeding though

I dont think spear buff is that good in the ling run. The plus crit doesnt scale and you lose evasion. The only part that scales is the block and AoE ratio. But the block is only 30% to base and the AoE ratio does nothing for PvP.

Attributes on the other hand are pretty decent.

Well if it follows both Skyliner and Cleave’s modifiers it should be 200% total. Exactly twice the damage.

Can you check for us @jordyrein, if you would be so kind?

Its 200 damage per hit if you hit a bleeding foe.
This is only relevant if you are
take a guess

Shinobi.
Since Clones will also double slash it basically adds an extra what 2000/2400 damage?

Pretty much all of the Swordsman C1-C3 kit is made (from my perspective) with the idea that you’re going to have 5 clones also benefiting from that buff or using that attack.

I suppose you could Fencer Shinobi.

lol my fencer cant cause bleed.

you got corsair right? you could at least bleed one

but all that setup for a little bonus damage might not be worth

i dont have keel hauling, and not gonna take it. -.-
unless imc make it not canceling hook, its gonna be 0 point for me

Umbo Blow > Thrust > Double Slash

It is just for the sake of knowing its % modifier, did not mean that you should make use of it.

Delcas already explained though, if it’s only 200 I can’t really see it being useful

In case he meant 200%, which i believe he did, seems pretty damn relevant. Highly doubt that it adds 200 flat damage.

If its really just 200 then the hell with it yes.

Edit: despite his clear statement I still find it really hard to believe it only adds a damn 200 flat damage. If that is the case it seems so useless.