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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#3711

Restrain, Concentrate and PB vs Warcry lvl 5, Seism, and CleaveChopper…

TBH lvl 15 Gung ho is only 160 less PA then Warcry lvl 5…

thats not a big dmg difference in the late game…
But im not sure if restrain is that useful anywhere outside of pvp…

#3712

Off topic a bit, which class goes best with a farming purpose Hop3? Gotta get some for that 3 hits Spear Throw patch

#3713

Don’t forget that Warcry have a mob level based damage now, so there’s some numbers there to be added.

  • War Cry:
    - Now also Increases base damage by [The lowest level target x Targets Affected x 0.1]

Restrain is useful if you have constant big AOE and Range in PVE, like a Pouncing or AA Finestra with 2hSpear + DOV.

#3714

Well, the meta build with Hop3 will be the dragoon path (Sw1-Pelt1-Hop3-Doppel1-Dragoon2), but if you want to make a pure farming, Sw1-Pelt1-Hop3-Corsair3 could be one way to go.

#3715

thats the missing 160 in my previous post.
lvl 5 warcry on lvl 330 enemies would be +260 physical attack

And AOE ratio is not hard to get really…

#3716

Oh, now I noticed the “Warcry lv5”.

I was assuming it was a lv15.

#3717

Does restrain proc on skills?

#3718

Yeah.

Actually, that’s a thing a Doppel did to me on TBL one time, pouncing + restrain. He began running and stunning everybody, then musketeer-chan sniped and GG.

#3719

thats scary and cool xD

since puncing gets +200% on stunned targets~

Ied probably go Sword2-Barb3-Fencer if War cry had the range of Swash

#3720

NVM i changed my mind, i love squire but after researching a lot i understood the the class has too many cons…going corsair for jolly roger, hook and i hope dust devil is good ^^

#3721

Hello guys, I’m planning to create a Fencer toon and I have a lot of questions to ask. I already on my way to finishing my Venier (dem lizard pumpkins)
It’s only for PVE
Path: Peltasta > Barbarian3 > Fencer2

  1. Stats: which is the best ? full DEX or STR DEX 1:1 or (insert your own stat here) ? Does swordsman need any CON ?
  2. Which is the best between Gladiator Band + Sissel and double Sissel ?
  3. Does upgrading Karacha Dagger from Arde Dagger for this job is worth it ?
  4. Attributes , does this job can compare with others if I spent silvers on attributes ?

Maybe that’s it. I love how rapiers are designed so I wanted to give this job a try.
Thanks for helping !

#3722

  1. Preference. Getting the right amount of dex until you reach 600-700 crit rate. So having high dex(probably 400) as a fencer able would let you get constant dps when critting (Fencer deals alot of dmg when crit). Con is honestly up to you. I can recommend 50 con or so.

  2. Double sissel. Crit rate is needed. Screw aoe-ratio since some of your C3 skills will only hit 10 mobs capped. Well get both if you wanna be good certain situation just for composee spam(probably in ET but with a linker comp this wont be a problem).You wont need aoe-ratio on bosses which is where you shine.

  3. No

  4. YESSSS you need attribute to shine more and deal much more dps.

#3723

What attributes should I spend my silvers on ?

Does crit rate decrease as my level goes up ?
Is +10 Venier is enough ? I don’t want to farm the recipe + item again from zero if I’m unlucky with enhancements.

What Fencer do exactly ? Ex: Fletcher for WB, Elememe for AOE, Fencer = ?

Should I just follow skillset provided in OP (for Barbarian3 Fencer2 path) ?

What Headgear costume options is preferable for Fencer ?
Thanks for answering my questions pretty fast. Still farming socket horns to sell for some silvers ;-;

#3724

do not level up venier (although up to 5 is good with silver anvil), I have a guess that venier will end up like “Zega Spear”, you use it only to have lv 7 Epee Garde and swap into stronger base damage weapon (SPADA). spam your silver more on “endgame/unchanging things” like Ella cards and composee

#3725

  1. Spend on composee. That will be the deeps as a fencer. You be spending on bele and composee mostly. Sept etoiles is good as a burst only. But composee deal way better dmg than sept. Thou i still get my sept attributes to 60%

  2. I not sure how crit rate works with char lvls. But base on the chart 600-700 are safe crit rate to crit roughly 60%-70% on 100 crit resist mob. Higher crit resist will need more crit rate (boss has high crit resist)

  3. Venier is fine to enchance. But do not transcend it. +10 should be enough, i only have mine on +9.

  4. They are literally boss killers when synergy with pardoner and goons.

  5. Up to you. Im a barb c3 fencer myself. Warcry is a must to max since its just too good especially in ET.

  6. PA + HP + Crit rate is the best.

#3726

I don’t have Fencer ranks, but I can at least provide input on this. While the amount of extra damage is unchanged, you get +11 dex off Karacha, which helps with crit rates. If you can afford to get one, you should.

#3727

Always get karacha when you can, bonus damage to medium sized and extra dex is always welcomed, and you will feel better gemming that compared to arde.

#3728

My advice about venier:
If you don’t dream in get solmiki, enhance your venier and trancend it.
Not trancending venier, will result in a loss of 5k or more damage in some scenarios.

Do not replace your venier for other than solmiki. Spada is only viable if you can’t afford a venier(isn’t you case) and you have at least 900 critical attack.

#3729

???
what dat?

/20solmikis~

#3730

it’s the updated lolophanter rapier, ET Floor 40