BlackHorn is even better than Solmiki and Elga imo, if you can get one.
Pajoritas(220HG rapier) would do nicely till practo gear is crafted/bought.
Anvil to +6-10 and trans1-3 a Venier/Cata/Magas/Duelist/Karuna/Sharp at hand will also do while farming for better gear.
Read blackhorm very hard to get but where is droped or how to get??
Also if not blackhorm wich one better? Im atm got 59m to spend on something recomendations?? Thxx
IIRC, only cardboard cube rng is the only source.
So how do we cope up now with the Epee change? Stats? Sorry haven’t played the game in a very long while.
Gotta say I miss my crits. lol
EDIT : Still worth it to max Epee?
im still maxing mine, i prolly stick to sw c2 barb c3 build just cause of the cleave’s crit rate, combining with balestra debuff i crit pretty often. Prolly make a vid out of this too
In my case, more hefty damaging skills to throw. Running a Sw3Hl2Fencer now.
100str 30con 200Dex, High aspd helps skill attack speed in this build, and fast AA filler since I’m a bit stingy with sp pots.
Crosscut bleed boosting DoubleSlash* and Skyliner*
Crown debuff boosting Moulinet*
Lunge to boost those slashes above
(*)affected by aspd=faster execution time
Double slash and Moulinet also has Critical attributes that give em’ a good fixed crit chance.
I find HL3 dead now due to the SkullSmash armor break duration nerf.
Barb3 is still also an option with Frenzy and Warcry PA buffs.
Cleave can get +100crit with 10 wild stacks.
Warcry extending Coquille and Balestra debuffs 10 more seconds.
Embowel’s lol 20second stun at 10 wild stacks.
The lack of Sw3 +5 sec PB attribute is painful tho.
Sure why not it still helps when rotating Fencer’s Pierce skills, and you can still fit two sets of Composee in it.
I myself just turn on Epee and just let the highspeed AA work when playing lazy.
200dex appears to be the aspd soft cap, anything more than that gets normalizes by the game, better off pump those spare stat to Str or Con or Spr(lol).
To quote from a different thread:
Crosscut sure increase damage of double slah for swordman 3???
Thank you. 
I tried it and now it feels like I didn’t get cheated on all the DEX I invested.
You saved me from hating my own character! Granted I invested 191 DEX + 9 Base.
Sorry for the off topic @ dopp and fen peeps 
How do you measure it? Some say that the soft cap is actually 180.
I’ve actually seen a difference when I put in 250 dex at least for skills to the point I can kinda spam 2 attack speed based skills at the same time. I’ve been doing 50 increments these past few days and I can see a difference. Gonna try again later since I’ve gotten black horn for more dex. So far i can almost fit all OH of skyliner and flacconade within 4 sec of lunge debuff (always hit 1 overhear left on skyliner or flacconade left)
Ive tested the attack speed myself
By adding dex at points (100/150/180/200/250/max) one at a time and cast my skills. I can tell especially au fer and sept that the cast animation is much more quicker. I cant see any differ with composee/flan since i have 150-300ms most of the time lol.
Now Im testing the attack speed gain from frenzy barb c3. Seems the same as having 200 dex if u go full str but still on testing.
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Gonna post my tests here for today.
Update: 290 solo
Tried out Sw3>HL2>Fencer 3 with 100 dex and 330 Str total.
Skills used from most to least (rough estimate): Double Slash, Skyliner, Moulinet, Crosscut, Coquille, Flash, Sept, Balestra, Au fer.
Gear: Nyx set with yellow and blue gems, Venier with red gems, Pajoritas dagger with green gems, max peta, sissel and phada
Attributes: 50 at Balestra, Au fer, and Sept. The rest I dumped on Swordsman skills esp Double Slash.
Went to 290 solo. Is it possible? Yes. Is it efficient? Hell no.
Pros: The damage is good, boss is no problem, lots of skills to cycle and pluck out mobs 2-4 at a time (the max aoe of Fencers)
Cons: Holy ■■■■ pots! Did a semi rush (no mage rooms and the last archer room in the middle) I used up around 50 hp and 30 sp pots, in Orsha that’s worth almost 100k. Silver Farmed 188k including boss. Very slow.
Update 2: DPK farming
13 mins test, kills
Silver farmed: 45k~ so around 3.5k raw silver per minute
Approach I took: Mana saver, meaning I mostly used SW3 and HL 2 skills, ended up using only around 5 sp pots.
Pros: Fast kills (around 8 mobs/min which is almost the same speed I farmed Lyonis) = bigger chances for you to get dpk if map is shared.
Fast rotation, skills are always up when you need them so assuming you don’t care about silver efficiency, you can sweep a lot faster.
Cons: Still can’t group up mobs (maybe because it’s Pystis). Not really using Fencer skills to save mana…so the stats for this run can be made by any Sw3>HL2>XX since there isn’t really much synergy between Fencer and the preceding classes (Epee and prepa buffs pierce only, and SW and HL skills are slash).
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I tested Fencer today… Have any lower rank that give some AoE?
barb c2 seism if u want aoe. Thou if you are going barb best to go to barb c3
Bonfires ftw, but yeah silver farming is bit less efficient now since you gotta chug down those drugs for every wave of mobs you face.
Actually, it’s not bad if you farm mobs less than 100k hp since HL and SW skills are pretty SP-efficient. It’s the dungeons you gotta watch out for >.>
But, but my Pain Barrier 15…
I will try then.
best thing about this was the free pistol attribute for corsair c1. I think imc fixed this already but I still have it, kek. No one expect the restrain chain coming from a pistol fencer and manamana is a decent stat stick (aoe ratio, speed, crit rate).
Fencer’s damage is GOOD, but not GOOD enough to justify the SP cost and the lack of aoe for PVE. I don’t know, I think imc should rework epee for something else that is not just a rng ■■■■. Maybe remove the damage boost and add a super strong FINAL crit chance, aoe ratio (ok, this is just finestra 2.0…) or something more creative, rework Esquiver Toucher, Preparation’s block, give us more effective counter mechanics and etc, something to justify this class being not just a “ok single target dps trashy at aoe”. I think IMC did right by reworking the skills cooldown and making class mixing important (no more just epee pierce composee forever), but Fencer is lacking an extra touch from Mr. Kim to make the class more unique. And the pistol attribute legit.
Skill spreading: how are you guys doing it? I’m using this one currently.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111138eee…1a21374561718595a5b5
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Currently using this one as well. I love it.
Re-testing crossguard this patch. Nope, still doesn’t let me get through the cap damage.
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