what do you mean? I need pyro1 for scrolls and link2>thau2 to farm efficently
Then you aren’t perma giant? You cant JP while giant. In which case why are you taking RC? FF1 will make it more efficient for heals.
you can use all linker’s skills while giant except spirit shock Rune of Giants + Other Skills (April 2018)
Really, all this time I thought that meant spirit shock (being a new skill and all) was being “advertized” as not usable while giant. So you’re saying “Linker - Spirit Shock not available” means everything else is usable while giant. Anyone have a video or screen shot?
here
Sweet!!
This means all the other life steal skills work right? I would definitely try to squeeze FF1 in for the heals: w2-link1-thau2-ff1-rc-ench2 maybe. You could prolly replace w2 with pyro1.
Apparently they’re changing a few things over in kTOS, such as Enchant Armor and Lightning Hands being available during Giant. I haven’t bothered with Onmyoji yet, as I’m waiting for readily available rank/skill resets in case it’s a really bad combination.
omnyoji as of now in iTos can use only genbu armor, I tried it once so I can’t assure this is 100% correct
@c2gaming.seetoo actually I don’t really understand what that means, I read it as: you can only use levitate from FF while blood curse, that usually can be used only while levitating, can’t be used @ultimapi can you clear this up for us?
I really don’t get the convention being used. Why not just list everything that can be used or everything that can’t be used?
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Boolean, I guess?
I’ll take Shadowmancer first.
So, Shadow Pool, Hallucination, and Shadow are available. That means all the other skills, the ones I didn’t bother listing, are NOT available.
Pass is not available. That means all the skills I didn’t bother listing are available.
Featherfoot was a special case. During normal size, you can only use Blood Curse while under Levitation (I don’t have a FF anymore, so I can’t confirm that). In Rune of Giants size, you can use Levitation, but you cannot cast Blood Curse. Also, while In Rune of Giants size, you can’t use any other skills (other than Levitation).
The more I think about it, the more I feel linker doesn’t really fit the AA playstyle of enchanter. Even the video has the guy doing only 1 AA then later nuking his pulls for greater effect. It seems better to just build a dream eater since rune of destruction is neutral magic. Something like a tiny RC.
The mHP and def buffs are nice though.
The leading cause of links being broken and the monsters still not dead is autoattacks.
I’m not entirely sure why it has to be Rune of Giants + AA. Pyro 3, Chrono 3, Enchanter 2 is a good AA build, and you’re not attacking like a snail since you have Quicken.
That is a full spr build too?
I just want to use rune of giant to the fullest, plus it’s the only way to make a farming build without having the graphically unhappealing buffs from thauma 
besides, if your char is invested enough links won’t break as easily and farming HGs won’t be a problem
edit: you also get to zoom zoom around the maps thanks to +20move speed and you can make pyro scrolls, overrall it’s just the best choice for me
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It can be, but you only need 360 SPR total.
I think Thauma buffs look kinda cute… but that’s just me.
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linker is just not worth it with rc>enchanter builds. auto attacks break links too fast and you have to sacrifice too much to fit linker into the build. my build is:
wizard c2 > pyro c1 > thuma c3 > rune caster > enchanter c2 with 100% CON stats and gear. as we can now use transpose while giant, you can use rune of giants 1st with its CON-based bonus attribute, then transpose to INT and use your swell brain, swell left, swell right, lightning hands, enchant lightning, and enchant fire (enchant fire is just for another line of damage for blessing to sit on). use exactly level 9 transpose so that its duration is ~10 seconds less than rune of giants. you want transpose to run out on its own just before giant runs out, so that when giant runs out you don’t lose your entire HP pool. ie: 100k hp > rune of giants > transpose to INT > 100k hp while transposed and giant. because transpose will run out on its own just before giant does, you’ll be full con when giant runs out meaning your max hp pool will never drop below 100k (when geared properly), so you’re never left with an empty HP pool that needs healing. there’s no reason to ever do this build with anything other than 100% CON on both stats and gear.
damage comes from having high magic attack (full int while transposed + full thuma buffs) with lightning hands activating with both your auto attacks as normal, but also your jumps while giant. you can auto attack while jumping if you time your button presses right, so it’s basically like having 2x attack speed. blessing will also stack on each line of damage; base + sacriment + enchant lightning + enchant fire. having all these attack lines will destroy links, which is why linker just isn’t worth it. i view it as a dps+support build, not a farmer (although it can so easily solo anything that you’d want to farm that it can farm too). i took level 15 swell left, level 10 swell right, level 5 swell brain, level 9 transpose (mandatory) and level 6 shrink body. forget swell body. shrink body is +120% damage, basically giving you 1100% factor lightning hands. the actual damage increase will be more than +120% (+600% factor lightning hands) due to the way enemy defense works. in practice you’ll see around a 230% damage increase against most endgame enemies, due to your damage being a larger hit which is less affected by the enemy’s defense.
TLDR: do 100% con on both stats and gear and use rune of giants 1st and then transpose to int and then use your buffs. use exactly level 9 transpose so it runs out on its own ~10 seconds before rune of giants does, so you’re back to being full con ready for when giant runs out, so your hp pool will never drop below around 100k. take level 15 swell left, level 10 swell right, level 5 swell brain, level 9 transpose, and level 6 shrink body. the +120% damage when you shrink enemies is incredible. in practice it’s far higher than the advertised +120% due to how enemy defense works. if you want reversi, you can drop 1 point from swell right arm. no room for swell body - trying to fit it in the build is a waste.
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Thanks for answering, I based my build also on one of your answer in the forum, but I think link2 can work, you just need a good weapon (I have a +11 315 orange staff which I think could work) and to not use enchant fire in order not to break the links too early. I need this char to be my farmer so I’ll try it, if I see that it doesn’t work I’ll just reset to a more standardized farm build. Apart from this, did I do any mistakes in my build?
this is the skill plan
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21277aahii.354555.11243575.253a4a55.1a3a4951.14354155.55617a8495a5
@MrFioz that build can work, so go for it. however, i’d like to suggest a couple of changes. get rid of pyro, as enchant fire is for an extra attack line for blessing to sit on but, due to not wanting to break link hit limit, enchant fire becomes a detriment to your build. i’d slap wiz2 in there for surespell so your rune of destruction won’t get interrupted. i’d also move around thuma skills a little. i see you’ve gone for level 9 transpose which is ideal with 100% con build, but i’d change swell body to level 8 instead of 10 (only difference is it hits 7 targets instead of 8) and do level 9 swell left arm and drop reversi so you can get level 4 shrink body (level 4 shrink body hits 5 targets - the attribute that makes shrunken enemies take +120% damage really is huge, and would allow you to clear some enemies quickly in-between your links). if you really, really don’t want shrink body then your pick for thuma skills will work. but it’d be a shame to miss out on having such an incredible tool in your toolkit. (side note: reason i say drop reversi is because the build is already tight as it is. having exact transpose level and exact swell/shrink levels for their target limit is important. however, you could sacrifice yet another level of swell left - level 8 swell left instead of 9 - to allow for the reversi point. but i feel the build is tight enough as it is, and you don’t want to gimp your main thuma buff too heavily).
here would be my suggestion for squeezing linker into the build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/30nfppyv1f/
EDIT: just noticed you mentioned needing a pyro scroller in an earlier post, so if that’s the case, keep pyro in the build. i’d still recommend the changes to thuma skills, but if you really don’t care about having +120% damage debuff in your build then your current skill picks are fine.
surespell can be replaced by runecaster’s rune of protection. downside is 50 sec cooldown difference in cd and duration.
thanks for your suggestions! if it wasn’t a farming build I would definitely listen to your advices but since the main focus of this character will be farming for double drops I need swell body to hit as many targets as possible (same targets as joint penalty) and to have the best damage I can have (I’m already dropping thauma3 for RC) so I can’t drop swell left either, with just 1 point left I thought it might just be better to use it on reversi since I can also scrol it and try to sell it/use on other chars (even if I never used it on my other thauma)