Full CON: the future of ToS builds?

[Ersakoz]

have fun with your toon, good day.
dont need to

Just wanna lay the fundamentals so some passerby have 2 side of a coin instead of one.

[alavien1]

ur right but most of survi can just come from gear too so its just an option i still can do stage 7 of challenge without any con invested

[alavien1]

yes ur right but still its and endgame where ppl should rely on teammates

[Ersakoz]

Everybody rely on each other.

pat pat

Finally some content with synergy.

[Benitora]

errr… will be fun if every party we have a complete set of support, no need to worry about CON at all, but u see even if we have good support doesnt guarantee we all get einsof, the dragon can destroy a magic circle, and p.link often get cut off,

there will be a time when u need to wait einsof to CD, thats when a 40k HP dps suffer, thats just what i experience, and… sorry … it is hard for me to believe a 40k HP not die even once in that raid

and… having trans 10 armors doesnt guarantee ur comfy in that raid, a tank build such as peltas2 that has 20k++ mdef pdef >100k+++ HP(no einsof) still can die in that raid

well it is what it is, mybe im too noob to talk about this, but, it just what happened to most ppl…

[Amber_Rei]

Try velcoffer. With stacks of einsof and whatever it’s used, with oracle’s stuff, and 400k temporary hps, I still risked to die. No, gear isn’t enough.

[alavien1]

I already cleared valco raid some times and imo some more hp will not save u but yes kabba3 can save the day

[Asriel]

yes ur right but still its and endgame where ppl should rely on teammates

Yeah that’s a nice view on things where you rely on someone else to level a disabled character just to babysit your hide.

but yes kabba3 can save the day

I don’t think Kabbalist C3 saved the day.
It’s the Cancerlist-build that totally destroys the character with either ClericC3>PriestC3>KabbalistC3 or ClericC2>DievdirbysC1>PriestC3>KabbalistC3.

Come on, show me proof you can finish the run with Kabbalist C3 and without any Priest C3 & Dievdirbys in the build.
Without any Priest at all in all 5 party members would be the best showcase of how useful Kabbalist C3 is.

And, of course, the Kabbalist C3 is not allowed to be full CON either so you can’t just share 700-800 CON with your teammates.

Show it to me. And show me that you can run without permanent Ein Sof on your Elelock.

In the end, you rely on 2 completely broken characters(Thauma>Linker and Priest>Kabba) to finish the raid, congratulations.
2 of 5 partymembers in total need to be sacrificed just to allow full INT meta.

With that said, you can hardly say that you cleared Velcoffer at all.
You got carried through by the dedication of two other people who,
despite the odds and cancerous leveling- ,questing- &funding process,
created disabled characters just to carry 3 other characters through Velcoffer nest.

[alavien1]

so u think other person in raid just doing nothing and kabba3(with priest OFC) clearing all alone? i must dissapoint u kabba3 cant damage with this build, and me as dps cant stand in 1 place and dps only, geez…, and whats your problem with everything that ppl writing? i FORGET to mention about priest in kabba build and u can write a book about it ._.

[miren.remin]

The last time I heard that’s what ‘role’ is called

Anyway. Try to bring all c3-p3-k3 and linkers. 5 man, all of them. And tell me how exactly they bring the Velcoffer raid successfully.

[adrian.agulto.rn]

Hi Ersa bro

I just got curious you said your Falco was 90k hp minimum

Mine is sitting with almost 11k pdef and almost 14k mdef but only got barely 60k hp and that is with every buff pre Ein Sof

Or did you invest on con for Velco? And did you find it necessary?

Cheers!

[Ersakoz]

Im full CON for my falconer.

90K without any HP buff.

Its just 1000++ dmg lol. 100 str = 250 PA. After its just a falconer, not a proper DPS

[adrian.agulto.rn]

Oh I see so like a support falconer for velco… thanks cheers!

[Ezeldan]

I don’t think Kabbalist C3 saved the day.

.Kabbalist C3 = c2/3 > p2/3 > ??? > kabba3
People are just lazy to type the whole build

It’s the Cancerlist-build that totally destroys the character with either ClericC3>PriestC3>KabbalistC3 or ClericC2>DievdirbysC1>PriestC3>KabbalistC3.

Food for Thought: What if... clerics can't heal?

Clerics have the lowest damage and worst support of all trees.

Food for Thought: What if... clerics can't heal?

Revive: If you’re in danger to die, chances are high that you will come into the danger to die again, and since Revive has such a huge CD time, the subject will really die;
However, if the subject doesn’t die, the buff is completely useless.
Ressurection makes it easier to die again, because people ressurected have only a part of their HP and lost all defensive buffs.

Unironically ironic

In the end, you rely on 2 completely broken characters(Thauma>Linker and Priest>Kabba) to finish the raid, congratulations.

It’s called

Get your facts straight bls

[Ersakoz]

Yeap , pretty much . But it has full trans 10 solm and bow to help out with damage.

Falconer Job is pretty much maintaining aiming ( purple circles ) for your pt . Both bosses have the ability to erase your aiming. The more you maintain uptime for your aiming the more Dps your team deals.

As for 40-50k personnel, all I can say is the kabbal 3 is baby sitting them . Either that or that person cast his skills and run as far as possible. Like really far lol.

Ground upheaval can wipe 20- 30k straight.

[xHitorix]

Kabba3:
-moveable sp pot in velcoffer
-support dps to increase survival rate by using g ein and merkabah (can’t remember correct spelling)

Honestly I just think that Kabba is a class which suitable for exploration new raid dungeon. After all know well about the pattern, Kabba will be replace by more aggressive build. Human will try to do some unique to prove that they are special and no using the meta build to clear the raid. It’s just time matter.
High con is a meta for now because all are new to velcoffer, it’s just increase the survival rate in raid.
Maybe in future there imc release hell mode of velcof which need to clear in Half hour… Then u will see all full str/int…who know??

[victormorelli6]

R.I.P cleric tree customization and welcome the age of HP/CON/KABBA.

Everything full CON makes stats choices useless. Also AA builds should receive some special attention to its damage on bosses.

The nerf inside the wizard tree was too great that a dead class as linker become, again, the best one with the outstanding and well known thauma.

The lack of different builds for some contents makes the game not more unique than palm trees.

[Sayurichan]

With that said, you can hardly say that you cleared Velcoffer at all.
You got carried through by the dedication of two other people who,
despite the odds and cancerous leveling- ,questing- &funding process,
created disabled characters just to carry 3 other characters through Velcoffer nest.

By that logic, one could say that no one “cleared Velcoffer at all”:
“You’re just getting carried by the trans system”, “you’re just getting carried by your good equipment”, “You’re just getting carried by con by becoming a hp-sponge”, etc.

[Amber_Rei]

Well, while I don’t agree with either of you, I want to say: stop being burdens for your party. Sacrifice your glass cannon special snowflake builds and gain survivability. The support doesn’t exist just to spam resurrect and heal your butts, you must be sturdy enough to make everything go smooth and not waste other players’ time. Heals will be necessary even with 400k HP, but at least you won’t die or slow down the party.

[Ersakoz]

Do look at upcoming changes to heal system. SPR is needed for effective heals . No more % base heals in future.

Full CON kabbal works for now . near future wonder how much SPR is really needed.

It’s a really good support at what cause ? It has literally non existent damage output. But in future kabba changes do include some dmg skills and nerf to ein soif