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Full CON: the future of ToS builds?

I already cleared valco raid some times and imo some more hp will not save u but yes kabba3 can save the day

Yeah that’s a nice view on things where you rely on someone else to level a disabled character just to babysit your hide.

I don’t think Kabbalist C3 saved the day.
It’s the Cancerlist-build that totally destroys the character with either ClericC3>PriestC3>KabbalistC3 or ClericC2>DievdirbysC1>PriestC3>KabbalistC3.

Come on, show me proof you can finish the run with Kabbalist C3 and without any Priest C3 & Dievdirbys in the build.
Without any Priest at all in all 5 party members would be the best showcase of how useful Kabbalist C3 is.

And, of course, the Kabbalist C3 is not allowed to be full CON either so you can’t just share 700-800 CON with your teammates.

Show it to me. And show me that you can run without permanent Ein Sof on your Elelock.

In the end, you rely on 2 completely broken characters(Thauma>Linker and Priest>Kabba) to finish the raid, congratulations.
2 of 5 partymembers in total need to be sacrificed just to allow full INT meta.

With that said, you can hardly say that you cleared Velcoffer at all.
You got carried through by the dedication of two other people who,
despite the odds and cancerous leveling- ,questing- &funding process,
created disabled characters just to carry 3 other characters through Velcoffer nest.

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so u think other person in raid just doing nothing and kabba3(with priest OFC) clearing all alone? i must dissapoint u kabba3 cant damage with this build, and me as dps cant stand in 1 place and dps only, geez…, and whats your problem with everything that ppl writing? i FORGET to mention about priest in kabba build and u can write a book about it ._.

The last time I heard that’s what ‘role’ is called :thinking:

Anyway. Try to bring all c3-p3-k3 and linkers. 5 man, all of them. And tell me how exactly they bring the Velcoffer raid successfully.

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Hi Ersa bro

I just got curious you said your Falco was 90k hp minimum :o:

Mine is sitting with almost 11k pdef and almost 14k mdef but only got barely 60k hp and that is with every buff pre Ein Sof

Or did you invest on con for Velco? And did you find it necessary?

Cheers!

Im full CON for my falconer.

90K without any HP buff.

Its just 1000++ dmg lol. 100 str = 250 PA. After its just a falconer, not a proper DPS

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Oh I see so like a support falconer for velco… thanks cheers!

.Kabbalist C3 = c2/3 > p2/3 > ??? > kabba3
People are just lazy to type the whole build

Unironically ironic

It’s called
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Get your facts straight bls

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Yeap , pretty much . But it has full trans 10 solm and bow to help out with damage.

Falconer Job is pretty much maintaining aiming ( purple circles ) for your pt . Both bosses have the ability to erase your aiming. The more you maintain uptime for your aiming the more Dps your team deals.

As for 40-50k personnel, all I can say is the kabbal 3 is baby sitting them . Either that or that person cast his skills and run as far as possible. Like really far lol.

Ground upheaval can wipe 20- 30k straight.

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Kabba3:
-moveable sp pot in velcoffer
-support dps to increase survival rate by using g ein and merkabah (can’t remember correct spelling)

Honestly I just think that Kabba is a class which suitable for exploration new raid dungeon. After all know well about the pattern, Kabba will be replace by more aggressive build. Human will try to do some unique to prove that they are special and no using the meta build to clear the raid. It’s just time matter.
High con is a meta for now because all are new to velcoffer, it’s just increase the survival rate in raid.
Maybe in future there imc release hell mode of velcof which need to clear in Half hour… Then u will see all full str/int…who know??

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R.I.P cleric tree customization and welcome the age of HP/CON/KABBA.

Everything full CON makes stats choices useless. Also AA builds should receive some special attention to its damage on bosses.

The nerf inside the wizard tree was too great that a dead class as linker become, again, the best one with the outstanding and well known thauma.

The lack of different builds for some contents makes the game not more unique than palm trees.

By that logic, one could say that no one “cleared Velcoffer at all”:
“You’re just getting carried by the trans system”, “you’re just getting carried by your good equipment”, “You’re just getting carried by con by becoming a hp-sponge”, etc.

Well, while I don’t agree with either of you, I want to say: stop being burdens for your party. Sacrifice your glass cannon special snowflake builds and gain survivability. The support doesn’t exist just to spam resurrect and heal your butts, you must be sturdy enough to make everything go smooth and not waste other players’ time. Heals will be necessary even with 400k HP, but at least you won’t die or slow down the party.

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Do look at upcoming changes to heal system. SPR is needed for effective heals . No more % base heals in future.

Full CON kabbal works for now . near future :confused: wonder how much SPR is really needed.

It’s a really good support at what cause ? It has literally non existent damage output. But in future kabba changes do include some dmg skills and nerf to ein soif

Also remember that Velcoffer raid = 5 deaths allowed for the entire party. If you’re not strong enough and rely on reviving, you’re bound to make your party fail the raid.

And that’s a good thing. This will make SPR useful, along with CON and DEX. What we will need after that is scale INT/STR properly with level, to give players full choice of what stat to increase in their builds.

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MISINFO OF MISINFOES. You can die any number of times you like, the limit is 5 SOUL CRYSTALS. If you have a priest with resurrecting skills (spoiler: you MUST), you can avoid wasting soul crystals and die any times you want. I just advise against dying over and over because it slows down the party and wastes precious buffs and foods.

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fulcon or not depen on skills and your connection, im bad player+ lag net, i choice more con more survival

My full int warlock is wearing full solmiki cloth (t10) and with squire food buffs i have like 72k hp. I don’t think you really need more hp than that unless your party isn’t static with a reliable healer and support (which is pretty much linker3 and kab3: pretty standard). Of course, it also depends on what your armor is. Even wearing cloth, I think i have over 10k physical defense so I’m pretty safe from most attacks. In fact with Lifeline and Einsof with SP attribute, I have over 400k hp and don’t even need to bother dodging attacks.

If your hp is that low, that means you have almost no CON on your equipment either, which means that healing effects affect you very little. Mass heal will heal only 1/4-1/3 of your hp and you will have to step on a lot of heal tiles to get all of your hp back (this also is a detriment to your party since if you eat all heal tiles, there’s none left for anyone else). Con greatly increases the amount you get healed, so yes it’s a great stat if necessary. After the future cleric rework, healing will be based little to not at all? on your CON stat (actually it’s the HP recovery you get from con) and mostly on the cleric’s SPR and their healing power.

Basically final answer is full con as a dps in pve is the my-armor-is-crap choice.

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And it still works after the patch because SPR scaling is secondary to attributes and CON still affects incoming heals by a large amount. Whatever SPR you were going to invest anyway can easily be made up for in gear.

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