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Founder pack price increase?

is this so terrible then IMC increase the price?
i think no. IMC is a company and need money. nobody works for nothing.
the amazon servers are not free the price is very high.
the TOS prices in steam in US and europe are not increase.
all people which have no money for the game wait 1 week and it is f2p.

we know server hosting is not free

if people can afford $5 but cant afford $10 would they wait till they get $10 to buy in ToS? most likely not.

the price should be regional so that the price are affordable for people living in those region. if its not affordable, no one would buy it and IMC loses potential sales.

would you rather get $5 or get $0 because people cant afford $10.

they cant afford because thats the only extra they have after they paid every living expenses and not sacrificing expenses just to buy TP/packs.

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Here’s a like for you . well we shall not talk about this ( WHITE KNIGHTS ARE ROUND THE CONNERS WAITING )

It’s terrible that IMC lied about sale. If they didn’t announce sale I wouldn’t refund my 2 packs.

Now I can’t afford them. So yeah, IMC definitely get more money if I DON’T buy those packs…

Gladly I bought 50$ one so I still get my pet and potions. But such behavior is very inapropriate, respectable company shouldn’t behave like this. But every week IMC only loses respect of it’s customers.

Steam rating continues to fall down and they continue to throw sh*t to their customers.

Even if they fix their mistakes later, negative feelings remain.

sorry, but you don’t get it (i wonder why i always end up explaining stuff to the people who don’t get it):

"and since tokens/TP have no production cost at all, you can maximize costs by giving the player the possibility to pay what they “want”, and that’s exactly why steam is so successful. "

wrong on so many levels. it is hard to find a place to start. Let’s get steam out of the way first: steam is so successful because it is the biggest online platform for buying games. and people want all their games in onc neat space. not scattered across many platforms. steam is #1 because steam is #1. That’s the simple truth. No matter how good a new platform to rival steam will be, people won’t buy their, because their library is already on steam.
also, steam introduced regional prices to fight key stores. it backfired because of gifting, but they are fixing that now with regional activation.

Lets move on the the statement that TP costs nothing. this might be true at first. but players cost money. people always seem to think that in a f2p game all money spend on f2p stuff by the player is 1:1 the revenue of the company running the game. but that is far from true. there are games out there with huge player bases and a considerable amount of f2p transactions, but still they struggle to make money. Because running a game costs tons of money. and each player costs a considerable amount. F2P only works because a minority pays enough to cover costs for the majority. And the majority is needed, because they are “content” for the paying users. But you must still be aware that those free users are really users of second class. they are only there as content for the paying users, because the paying users are the only ones that matter.
To make that equation work you need a certain balance between those two groups and you need to be sure the paying group pays a certain amount of money on average per month. it is a very fine balance.
IMC prolly did the math and maybe the 50% cheaper packs unbalance this equation in their opinion. Because cheap TP can cost them money. People from low income countries can use the cheap TP to flood the market with cash shop items (for example headgear with top stats) which prevents the people from countries with bigger incomes to buy TP. So now the average monthly income from a paying user goes down. they now need more of them, thus needing a lot more free users as “content” thus blowing up the scope of everything, because they now need more staff, more servers etc.

So to sum it up, sometimes it is smarter to have less paying users that pay more then to have twice the amount of users but each of them only pays half.
So it is quite possible that users that buy packs at 50% perma discount because of regional pricing are not wanted by IMC in the long run, because they make the game unprofitable.

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Well why not? I am literally enjoying the show more than playing actual game now (which is a bad sign obviously)

That’s not correct. Users who would buy packs are those who experienced no price change.

NOBODY will buy more expensive pack when he expected sale instead. So IMC loses money from ALL the community outside of USA and dome other countries.

That’s probably the worst move they made so far. They do everything to get despiced by their byers. That’s total incompetence on their part.

I dont care about Founder pack that much but… Duck, this game running without any kind of protection! Anyone can do anything with this game. Anything!

And now u are talking about bots and RMT, IMC. Every ducking thing u do hurt only normal players, not cheaters. It s just not fair how u punish me and every ducking honest player.

I’m not gonna pay u 18 bucks\month. I just cannot afford this. AAA games in my country costs somewhat nearly this price, and i cannot find any reason to pay every ducking month for a this game instead of bying once and forever another great game.

Because we will get into a long term debate with those @!^*%)^ =3

Raising prices one day before the day they promised to discount everything by 30%.

What a shady company you are IMC.

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well now we know why all their other games failed hard despite some be really fun

wait wait waitt

IMC BE like

if you are referring to my first post, please read the second. if you reply to the second you can’t be helped…

You can ignore them. Most of those guys are people who already bought what they want and never intended to buy more (I mean those who bought 1 pack, 3 packs or didn’t pay at all). Personally I don’t even read their posts much because

  1. They are too long
  2. They make no sense
  3. Their opinion isn’t really valuable since they never intended to pay more
    Edit: I didn’t mean to offend people who already bought their packs, what I mean is that you too shouldn’t disregard people who wanted to get their packs later as IMC promised them to be on sale.
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1 more like for you ok ? XD

Its ICM you are talking about. IMC in another way is good.
They did the following

  1. Created servers for different area needs.

  2. Already Ban lots of bot account

  3. Fast reaction to their clients

  4. Chose to put SEA server in Singapore, it has the fastest internet speed in whole south-east Asia.

  5. Many many more.

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6 Nothing of that actually happened

IMC always correct things in wrong way, I wonder what happen to the director and marketing director. I agree with the problem they are facing, but the solution is always very weird.

I would rather they just take out EA1 and EA2 to shoo those abuse Steam Regional Pricing, but directly apply 30% discount on EA3 earlier prior to 21/4/2016, this eliminate abusers while open door for truly players to access earlier.

seriously they need to find new marketing directors, i mean dude they still haven’t learned anything during this whole early access phase, props to them tho banning bots, and listening to the community, but this pricing they’re just asking for another riot from the people affected by this

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Yeah, because the opinions of people who ‘‘were going to buy more packs, no really!’’ are any more important. If you cared that much about the game, why not just get the packs before the discount? And if you dont, or cant, wouldnt it make more sense to wait till the F2P launch to begin with?

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