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Fletcher Doubt, Halp!

Does maxing crossfire as fletcher c1 is really that worth it?

I mean, Bodkin + broadhead + barbed does stacks really well the dmg output, i do like the ideia of putting at least 1 lvl on crossfire for burn aoe dmg tho.

I choose fletcher just as a “bridge” to schwarze reiter, since i can use all fletcher skills mounted, but i do end up being a SR c2 which have a lot of considerable AOEs.

What you guys think?

BTW, the build is Archer c1 > QS c3 > Fletcher > SR c2

Uhh…

you can use fletcher skills mounted?
IS there a list of useable skills?

^^

But about crossfire.
The bonus aoe damage, is duo the level.
Level 1 it’s 100% atk to the first enemy hit and 80% to aoe radius crossshaped.
Level 5 it’s 100% to all.
level 10 it’s 125% in the aoe and 100% to the first target hit.
Each level increases aoe damage by 5%.

WOuld go broadhead 5, bodkin 4, barbed 5 and crossfire 1.
If i wont get more then fletcher 1.

yep, you can, there is multiple docs telling which skills can be used mounted, all fletcher ones is some of them.

See this here and look up to Appendix C i think…

yeah you just confirmed what i was thinking,

Thank you :smiley:

Good to know.

Never bothered with mounting.
As i don’t like SR xD… even if its good.

Cannons with Traps and falcons and lots of skill spams q.q for me.

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I’ve just reached fletcher C1 and level 5 crossfire damage is kinda lackluster compared to level 15 barrage but should scale well at C3. Can’t wait for level 10 magic arrow but it’s a long road to rank 7.

magic arrow lvl 10 is scarying af

I never liked the cool downs on SR. No matter if someone tries to debate me with about how good the skills are.

Crossfire has good AoE and you can combine the burn with Broadhead’s bleed.

Actually, since im going QS c3, rapid fire debuff + running shot will be one of my primary dmg skills since it can be “leveled” up till 7 so it goes to 27s duration.

In between running shot duration and its cd (35 sec), im using all of my SR skills, which basically does the same as QS, nice moving speed while attacking plus nice “multi-shot” aoe-ish

I will not have time to keep spamming crossfire tho, a armor debuff+bleeding already will take a lot of my moving momentum, which basically doesnt fit very well on my build :slight_smile:

I just pick Fletcher mostly because its skills fits “better”, wugushi only shines over c2+ ( “similar skills” ), scout will be a waste since ill only be using cloak…

Yeah, i think thats it…

hello, did you try fletcher+SR yet? i was interested in this combination

cross fire is a bad skill, it will always pale in comparison to other aoe skills because it roots you to the ground and it has slow attack speed due animation lag.

If you realy wanna do that build, forget about crossfire.

It is only good at lvl 10+ even so, it hurts your mobility if you are lagging to much.
broadhead 5 can help you, but you must jump to cancel the aftercast delay of the barberd arrow or it will hurts you mobility too.

Thats lag / server issue dependent, with 60ms I was able to spam it like crazy. But it roots you in the ground, yes.

Even if you spammed it with no lag. it will never get to the same level as a skill like Frost Cloud because frost cloud ticks 3-4 times a second, in the time it takes you to cast Crossfire twice frost cloud would have already done 10x as much damage as you.

3 ticks per sec.

10x damage looks too much.

You should factoring the CD too. Its 30 sec CD vs 0 sec CD.

Also, 3k dmg per tick is not that impressive.

Hugs.

I’m not gonna get into a discussion of this because I know where this argument leads.

I’m just going to let you know that because of what you said in your post, your lack of knowledge of end-game play and party composition is not qualified enough to let you judge what’s “impressive”.

Ok…

Lets say:

5k damage per tick on frost cloud:

5k x 32 = 160k damge in 30 sec. (you can cut down the CD with Chronomancer, ok…but lets just stay with this) so its 5333 dps

Now if you can cast 1 cross fire per sec doing 8k dmg (ignoring the burn damage from its atribute)… Or even just 6k dmg per crossfire, Dps wise I cant see how this is bad. Again, with a good ping you can do that.

So you can explain it to me, I would appreciate that.

Let me know what you get to level 210 and start doing truffle grinding, then tell me your opinion of how good you think crossfire is.

For now you really can’t assess how bad crossfire really is on paper alone, or how good Frost Cloud can potentially be.

No problem man, just more 5 levels and I can do that. Too bad it will be only lvl 10 crossfire, and my damage atribute is only lvl 20 or 30, but I think it will be ok.

You think its bad cuz you got delay after casting it, or just the damage alone is bad for you?

its rate of damage, awkward aoe pattern, and and SP cost is just really awful. You don’t really find out until you start killing mobs with 100k+ hp.

just saying, crossfire lvl 1 does help a lot, just for the sake of burning, plus if u have a linker in your party crossfire applies to all of them at the same time, so you have like 4 crossfire at once, which is pretty cool looking aswell, yes, it roots you, but as you said, just jump meanwhile casting it will cancel any “rooting” abilities, the same applies to all skills.

Broadhead is probably one of my top 3 dmg ability, bodkin is pure utility agaisnt any shield skill plus physical defense reduction, and barbed only does decent dmg on cloth armor type.

and for the sake of the post, either you go crossfire 1 or 15, mid-term does not worth that much, since the others skills overshadow crossfire, specially broadhead.

not a wizard thread tho, i now you are trying to compare something, but a c1 skill with a c3 skill doesnt seems even fair

if wizards didnt have their massive aoe dmg, most of them would not exist.