Indeed, 37% is very little. DEX/STR 2:1 and no Con.
Edit: DEX/STR 3:1 and no Con.
Cheers.
Well Both builds are viable are good. Eventually for now IMC is bad at balancing how stats goes.
( since you wonât need high block pen as you can gain block pen sufficient from just low strength and level + less strain on equipment) .
I fear for strength more (as skill damage goes up ridiculously flat numbers)âŚ
They really need a revamp of stats or skill to scale to strength else strength will be extremely meaningless as it goes down (well who knows what will happen 6mths down)
I understand. My frustration is not because the distribution status or damage (think the DPS Doppel is ok) but the new skills are irrelevant. Damn you fake multi hit (placebo effect).
strutz is 2 true multihit.( 4fake hits seism 2.0) <â easier to cap 400k with sept debuff
Redel is full multihits. zuckens is still true ( pre 5 hit) the after hits are all fake)
Mostly take strutz + 1 point on zwer for debuff i guessâŚ
Iâm pretty sure Zucken hasnât fake multhits after the first 5.
you mean with or without attributes ( the attributes) ? The attributes iirc should add 1 hit.
Care to reshare the results with scarecrows? After attributes that is.
Single hit skills are bad too, unless they have huge % damage multipliers - and then theyâre still limited by damage cap (as are fake multihits - you mention that Spiral Arrow canât break damage cap, itâs also a fake multihit). With how insane scaling can be now due to transcendence, attributes, etc. true multihits become stronger and stronger. It will eventually be the difference between doing 199,999 damage 5 times vs. doing 199,999 damage once. Single hit skills (including fake multihits) often have longer cooldowns for some reason, too. Doppelâs Redel is a 25 second cooldown, while their fake multihit C3 skill is 30 seconds. Ranger is the worst example, with 5 hit/3 overheat/AoE Barrage on an 18 second cooldown, while fake-multihit/2 overheat/single-target Spiral Arrow is 36, literally twice the cooldown for a C3 skill that is in almost every way worse than a C1 skill.
It really isnât so much that fake multihit or single hit skills are inherently bad, theyâre just balanced horribly between pure numbers and game mechanics (I.E. damage cap). They could just cut the new Doppel skill down to 15second cooldown and itâd be great. Look at C2 Dragoonâs skill, itâs not only a huge nuke (both in damage and hitbox), itâs got a low cooldown and 2 overheat and a debuff, so itâs a strong skill even though itâs not multihit.
Also with attribute. I donât see my damage spliting by the attribute which increases multihits by +100%.
So in total how many hits of 1 hp does it do. To a scarecrow.
I donât trust in practice dummy. The same scarecrow only shows 5 hits from new Redel.
eh but most of the cases seem true ( volley fire 4 hits on target 1 hit on dummy)
Calculation as a fake multi-hit does seem to be on point though.
O-oâŚ
Well we will know when time pass due. If Redel/Zucken does have cap damage at respectively 1m/800k âŚthen pretty much lawl.
I guess once some one caps out. near 30-40k (assuming itâs 14 hits) per redel ( add in sept debuff it should 60k-80k) (5 true multi hits of 200k will cap at 1m)
Where as 14 hits of 80k passes 1.1m 
We will know soon.
Iâm pretty sure itâs fake. Just tested it now. I do 7 hits on Redel (pretty sure itâs just my ping or nah), while I only do 5 hits when attribute is turned off. I did two videos testing the skills against dummies (w/ attribute, the other one is w/o)
True :
Redel = 7 hits (5 without attribute)
Fake :
Zucken = 5 hits
Zornhau = 1 hit
Sturtz = 2 hits
Zwerch = 1 hit
Iâm trying to upload the video now.
Also just tested it now against lier dummy and my Redel deals 5 hits with and without attribute.
If itâs true 7 hits (with attribuites) it could mean that the attributes add a true cap 400k to redel.
IF zucken with attribuites = 5 hits ( it woulda mean) basically it caps out at 1m like what i said lel. (any way still needs corwn/zornhau proc)âŚ
Either way Redel is easier to cap ( DOV15 with Redel i am hitting around 15k per hit.)
I will keep a look out for any cap Dopple around KTOS.
Since ( Most of the old dopple have capped out) or we just have to wait for a while longer more when peeps get new gear + cap out their attributes
Here are the tests I made:
With attribute
Without attribute
Itâs clear even from the damage I dealt on the dummies hp bar that I made 7 hits from Redel.
Me using Redel against a monster:
0:10s
2579, 2791, 2274, 3715, 4962, 6051, 4177, 6737, 7145, 4685, 2355, 3467, 3510, 2335.
I remember very well about this topic: [BUG] Doppelsoeldner C1 & C2 Bugged (Video)
His impression about Redel and Zucken against the same dummies. Unfortunately his videos is off now.
14 damage lines, divide that into 2 and you get 7 hits.
And why the attribute increases the multhits in +180%? It doesnât make sense.
Itâs increase in total damage @_@.
But the True Damage cap per skill still exist. Which is the purpose of True multi hit ( to exceed per line damage of 200k)
So the attributes does add 2 line (together with a damage boost) --> cap damage of redel from 1m > 1.4m.
Assuming you do cap out. Thatâs the limit of the (real multi hits).