I have not tested the Zornhau Maximized and not up your new attribute, nor intend to do it so soon.
This frustration with the new skills exhausted the limit of my patience.
I gave up Doppel.
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then donât say that doppel is bad if you didnât even try the full potential of the class buddyâŚ
Everybody i know is so satisfied with doppel c3
You obviously didnât build the skills right.
Edit: and as the guy below me says, plz lvl your DoV.
Doppelsoeldner shines with Deeds of Valor, donât expect to hit hard without it. I killed the Demon Lord Zaura lvl 330 (420 million hp) almost alone, today. Not using lvl315 weapon yet. The potential is out there, if you canât take the heat, then play SR3 or Musketeer2.
When I told you Doppel is bad? You must learn to better interpret what you read. I did the post to show how bad are the new skills. Cyclone still remains viable and Redel is much better than the new skills even with the new attribute off.
I know how DoV is strong. What I am criticizing are the new skills. High damage fake multi hit vs Low damage real multi hit.
They are not fake hits, thatâs a rumor that got spread on forums but just that. Zornhau with multihits is as good as Zucken. Most of our skills are meant to be a complement while our strongest skills are on cooldown. I donât recommend you to max Zwerchhau, i tested it at lvl 5 and the damage is not that great, unlike Sturtzhau that gets better every level, cause the defense bypass (Unless youâre a Highlander3, donât max it). The only thing is donât like, is to build DoVâs stacks every time it runs out, but thatâs it.
Weâre on the top tier DPS with R8 and thatâs a fact.
I have not tested the Zornhau with multihits, so I can not evaluate it. What really discouraged me is the fact that new skills are weak. The Zwerchhau base damage is very high but deceiving, in practice is another thing (placebo effect) and the same goes for the Sturtzhau. These two skills are clearly fake multi hits.
I expected more of the skills of Doppel 3 as was seen from the skills of Fencer 3 and Dragoon 2.
They are fake multi hits. If they werenât, the skills would do multiple 1s on the training dummy. Zornhau, Zucken, Sturtz and Zwerch are all fake multi hits. Redel was the only true multi hit.
This video is the proof. Doppel C3 skills are just like Seism 2.0. Unless devs decided to fix this, I too have quit my Doppel.
Not saying Doppel is weak, Doppel is the best aoe dps class and highest dps class out there. But seriously outside Cyclone, DoV and Redel (you can include Punish but isnât that much reliable since mobs must be knocked down), all other skills suck.
EDIT : Video not mine
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Thanks for posting this video. Precisely this explains a lot. I was extremely upset to find that the High damage skills does not match its actual harm. Just like you I really like Doppel and do not consider it a weak class, but this failure in C3 skills made me give it up this class.
The Indignation is to see how the IMC did right with the Dragoon 2, Fencer 3, Murmilo and Lancer, in against departure, made a â â â â â â â â â â â with C3 Doppel.
So bad.
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Good. Less strong people on the server the better for me to get a party as a Doppel.
Seriously though, the 2 new skills are terrible damage wise, however the new attributes are amazing for Redel and Zornhau. You only take the new skill that gives 50% more slash. Itâs great.
I mean itâs nothing like what Dragoons get at C2 of their arsenal, but itâs great. I hope Lunchador keeps us on par with Dragoon. If not, then Iâll call it too.
The other tricky thing to manage is dov scales off str and physical attack, but with weapon transcendence overtaking strength as a source of physical attack, dex seems to be the stat physical dps classes are going for.
Is 300-400 crit rate the goal for a successful dopp build? Or do you throw everything into str and con and just let dov and barb frenzy/warcry do its thing and say fu to the crit formula?
Also is the skill rotation for a high3barbdopp3 on unbleedable target,
Conc, gung ho, dov, mushroom/bloodletting, skull swing, cleave, cyclone.
Hi guys enjoy 90k dopple end game blendtec
Crit And more crits.
This is crit meta. To add on Sturtz have 2 True multi hit. So it does cap out at 400k damage.
There is peeps said that a glitch might occur where you can surpass 200k cap at times.
Either way Dopple is pretty much DOV Cyclone Redel 10 and Sturts. The rest of the skills is lacking. With 1 point on zwerch for debuff. Punish is nice on grind and is easily cap out at 200k.
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Unless you RMT or have a whole guild feed you silver and gear, you wonât be seeing numbers like that anytime soon. If new.
Doppel is crazy strong as a DEX build, but only after proper funding in both attributes but mostly from gear.
You donât really need RMT. Just pure farming with 3-5 characters on 145 daily. You will get there by the end of 2 months
(since they do have 5 runs we need to factor in lel)
Edit addin: if you focus on 1 single character with mule to fund pretty much from CBT till now your dopple will actually be on this state or near already.
Man this is such a casual game
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We all know this is such a casual game :^)
About a late game build, I would not do full DEX⌠I believe that a build focused on STR is even more viable, more or less like this:
Critical rate
100 DEX = 100 critical rate
Cleave = 50 critical rate for 5 seconds
Max Petamion = 14 DEX/critical rate
2 Sissel = 74 critical rate
8 Ellaganos lvl 10 = 80 DEX/Critical rate
2 Gems lvl 7 = 88 critical rate
Gale Slasher = 15 critical rate + 30 DEX/critical rate
Critical rate total = 451 for 5 seconds after finishing buff of cleave 401.
Ps: I do not consider points acquired through colections and statues in this calculation up.
Nice video. Just missed it shows the equipments and status at the end ⌠With Gale Slasher DPS would be even higher. 
Most people have already transcend their previous bis + 200% which is actually better than current.
new weapons cost x 3-4 times more to enhance also @_@.
Monster crit resist goes up to 206. You might as well invest full strength at this rate.
crit rate formula
((your crit rate - crit resist ) * 42 ) / (your level)
the crit rate you are having 451
((451- 160 ) * 42 / 330)) = 37% assuming majority of the mobs are 160 crit resist. (thatâs 1.5x damage lose out on almost 1/3 hits)
Full str does burst better initially at a constant rate.
Where as crit damage from crit 1.5 ( Spikes every hit and onwards which is why dex eventually will win str) at a point.
Prolly by rotation 3-4 ( sustain damage over time) Judging by how the stats is going right now i would say itâs ultimately up to you.
Itâs either high DEX minimal strength or just Full str and abit of con.
Do note that why i suggest full str instead of low dex ( since crit chance scale to level) and crit equipment is capped ( thereâs a limit of how much crit you can gain from equipment)
Investing minimal is pointless and diminishing.