I’m pretty sure it’s fake. Just tested it now. I do 7 hits on Redel (pretty sure it’s just my ping or nah), while I only do 5 hits when attribute is turned off. I did two videos testing the skills against dummies (w/ attribute, the other one is w/o)
True :
Redel = 7 hits (5 without attribute)
Fake :
Zucken = 5 hits
Zornhau = 1 hit
Sturtz = 2 hits
Zwerch = 1 hit
I’m trying to upload the video now.
Also just tested it now against lier dummy and my Redel deals 5 hits with and without attribute.
If it’s true 7 hits (with attribuites) it could mean that the attributes add a true cap 400k to redel.
IF zucken with attribuites = 5 hits ( it woulda mean) basically it caps out at 1m like what i said lel. (any way still needs corwn/zornhau proc)…
Either way Redel is easier to cap ( DOV15 with Redel i am hitting around 15k per hit.)
I will keep a look out for any cap Dopple around KTOS.
Since ( Most of the old dopple have capped out) or we just have to wait for a while longer more when peeps get new gear + cap out their attributes
Here are the tests I made:
With attribute
Without attribute
It’s clear even from the damage I dealt on the dummies hp bar that I made 7 hits from Redel.
Me using Redel against a monster:
0:10s
2579, 2791, 2274, 3715, 4962, 6051, 4177, 6737, 7145, 4685, 2355, 3467, 3510, 2335.
I remember very well about this topic: [BUG] Doppelsoeldner C1 & C2 Bugged (Video)
His impression about Redel and Zucken against the same dummies. Unfortunately his videos is off now.
14 damage lines, divide that into 2 and you get 7 hits.
And why the attribute increases the multhits in +180%? It doesn’t make sense.
It’s increase in total damage @_@.
But the True Damage cap per skill still exist. Which is the purpose of True multi hit ( to exceed per line damage of 200k)
So the attributes does add 2 line (together with a damage boost) --> cap damage of redel from 1m > 1.4m.
Assuming you do cap out. That’s the limit of the (real multi hits).
Well that’s what I’ve been trying to figure out, but unfortunately I am not that good in math. Zucken deals 10 damage lines against mobs as far as I can tell, but on dummies it only does 5 hits. Sturtz deals 6 damage lines against mobs, but only does 2 hits on dummies.
EDIT : @unicorntheshiny well that is the only explanation I can think of. You really can’t rely on IMC’s description of skills.
[Zucken/Redel]'s attack count gets increased therefore the total amount of damage gets increased by 100/180%
Both description applies to Zucken and Redel. IMC just likes to not make sense at all with their balancing decision. lol
5 hits + 180% = 14 to me, that’s why I said that and +180% only in damage or in multihits are the same thing in the end.
I agree about Zwerchhau, because I have DPE lvl 2 and the skill only counts as 1 hit.
Weird interactions with certain skill count and what not.
Well assuming it caps out at 1.4m it will look extremely nice of 99k each line 14 hits dem.
Lol. ( but it will be extremely hard to cap it out as the base value of the skill is low).
Meanwhile, falconer has been “enjoying” fake multi hit since rank7 with their sonic strike until now. 
Falconer still has bug now ( caltrops with aiming + flying units) it’s amazing no one report of that lel. Or was it forgotten?@_@
Moment I found out about fake multi-hits, I didn’t bother trying to make sense of IMCs decision. 'cause it just doesn’t make sense at all, I mean why bother. it’s either you make them single hit or multi hits. sure it looks pleasing to the eye but when you discover what it really is, it’s really really annoying.
anyway I’m really sad I had to give up my Doppel. maybe when IMC accepts that they are stupid for making fake multi-hits and fix those Doppel skills, maybe then my build would be viable.
Falconer is always get forgotten. While some retard went and complain falconer being too strong because of its circling and hoping its nerf, they dont know falconer have nothing else except circling and aiming. Hahahah… falconer dps skills are jokes. Rank7 sonic strike with 0 attribute, I deal not more than 7k dmg to a normal mob, while my multishot lvl15 can deal almost 80k damage (75 attribute). In addition of falconer does not gain new dps skill in rank8. :DDD fake multihit has been a very hot discussion for falconers because it separate the benefit of extra dmg (blessing, elemental dmg bonus etc) and make the skill super weak. Until now still no fix yet. This is maybe the 1st time i saw fake multihit complains besides falconer.
falconer are actually your r8 linkers now (well at least in KTOS) for what i know it’s render as a support class
Yea I know. Currently leveling my falconer since my warlock has gone into deep bull ■■■■ by IMC. 
Hahaha…
_>… warlock well… (i still have one i intend to bank it with a 1.4 k ma rod though)… :V
That is literally all I was trying to get at (the first part at least) since there were comments such as
and regarding dethrone I doubt anyone would mind if that was a fake multihit.
Not saying that they are good skills, that seems to be something you yourself have interpreted me saying. [quote=“erik_thrash, post:24, topic:333451”]
You must learn to better interpret what you read.
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(Sorry couldn’t resist)