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Despite all the drama from the recent bug, ToS actually GAINED players this month

Player number is still high because everyone that got their account suspended just made a necromancer on an alt account to farm silver while they wait to get their main back

Well, that image might be bad evidence, but that is what I got. If you know any place I can go to take the non misleading numbers, I’ll gladly change it.

Mark Twaiin famously pointed out three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.

I say this because the numbers you show are over 30days and only 5 of those days are from the recent events that are lumped with the other 25 of the combat revamp and rank reset.

What’s funnier, is if you compare the month of May, with the last 30 days, is that in just 5 days, TOS lost 1200 of those new players (1654-441)

In fact, what you show is a loss of 1200 players.

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Gotta use them 14 day expiration itemz.

You shouldn’t use granado espada steam numbers as an example as you can use a client outside of steam and it was originally out for a long time before it ever came to steam.

You just need to compare it to an also mixed account MMO that is also on steam. It is not like there is no parameter to this type of MMO we can use.

But my message does not change even if I use the all accounts possible number. It is not like GE has a big population nowadays and that is what I wanted to show.

Like I said, If you think it is bad that I use GE steam numbers, show me where I can find the true number and I shall change it, because before posting I looked for it and did not find anything.

Also GE is a game from 2006…thats a 11 year old game.

Yup, that was my point, to show that the number of active players does not actually makes a game die, and so, if ToS is losing players that does not mean it will die like most of the complainers say.

I could have used another mmo as almost all of them have small number of active players, however, I preferred using GE as it is from the same company.

But doods, that was like, not the focus of my post. Don’t know why people are paying more attention to that. It is now like I’m saying something wrong.Or there is something that shows that GE is actually very populated?

You’re misinterpreting the statistic. +1,654.3 is the amounts of players gained from after april during may. +430.6 gain is the gain during the 6 days gained after may. (Where average goes.)
So no it’s not a loss, it’s a gain on top of it.
Basically the player gain is 1654+441 from may 1st till this day. (In comparison to april.)
The highest peak has happened in june too since the number is higher than at any time during may. Absolutely no loss in average players.

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Global Agenda in steam charts has 25 active players

does that means only 25 player actually used steam for their GE? (while others didn’t use steam for that of course)
…
such a sad number

well the private server of GE are populated. considering the SEA server just closed several months ago.

According to some the japanGE is the next most populated GE server after the privateserver.

Removed the image in order to make you happy.

Well, that can’t be compared to what we have on steam. Maybe you could compare japanGE with jToS. Unless you’re saying they are having the same issues as we do on iToS.

And concerning private server, we do not have the option of comparing it as private ToS does not exist yet.

do those chinese ToS bootleg count?

nah …that’s a bit different
its like comparing elsword with fist of fu
its not the same

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Yes, it gained players, just because of the rebalance, and it didn’t even came close to those 54k it had a year ago. Give it a month or two, 3k players avarage.

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Either that, or it’ll gain even more or stay the same
…We’ll see …we’ll see…

Didn’t FFXIV have 4 million subscribers or something when ARR released? It’s sitting around 1.2 million now I believe, that’s no where near the 4 million before. Obviously dead bad game /s

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1.2 millon? That’s fantastic. But what business do you have with less than 10k playerbase? Not good at all for an mmorpg. The obvious consequence is P2W, they have to gain money from somewhere, milk those few who are left, and then move on. I believe IMC already gave up on this game.

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Rather than IMC, more like you yourself have given up on this game, right?

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