Not that I am going for the argument that number of players mean nothing to a game to still be open, as there are other reasons but Granado Espada is actually out there for years and with a pretty small community and pretty much no one talking about it.
Well, getting on-topic, I myself don’t disagree with what people say, I just don’t like that much to hear complains (which is why I turned the shout off and also have not been talking to some specific people).
Tree of Savior is an unique game, with the majority of its content and form with 0 games with the same aspects to compete. I myself play it because it is the only game with a Fencer class available with a minimum investment on its theme, aside of the other things (pseudo-2D that actually seems to be 2D, rereading of european mythology with oriental aestethics, a minimal otaku culture though more akin to korean, the fact that it is actually being somewhat successful in Japan as I value what japanese people value, etc). There are lots of other things to add here, of course.
And not only that, nothing can be compared nowadays. I searched, even after the Fencer release for a lot of swashbuckler/rapier based classes or games and none actually mattered, because not only they are scarce (as some actually died), but they lacked other content and/or form from above.
Of course, you could assume that I am alone with this thinking, like I am some weirdo alone speaking nonsense. I actually tend to think that you are right about that. But sometimes it seems that there are a significant number of people like me out there, and they do not play OW, WoW or any other ocidental game whatsoever. And they are keeping their money until they find something like Tree of Savior. Even if it is bugged, flawed or [insert your complain here].
So, I don’t know if you’re getting my point here, I am not defending this game but I am actually making the case of IMC having current the monopoly of what Tree of Savior is. If their focus is taking money from only a selected part of the market, a niche for that matter, than the fact that OW and other ocidental game or even FF14 will take a part of the current player base does not really matter.
Also, the fact those ‘believed to be good’ games are pay2play just makes things worse for some countries (I could play as rogue in WoW or Red Mage in FF14 to maybe mimic a Fencer, but I don’t have the option to pay the expansion nor to pay a subscription). And even if I could, I don’t think I would pay for WoW or FF14 as they lack too much to attract me.
I frankly believe that people getting out of the game is good, both for my eyes health and for the game to adjust or even for some competitor to show its fangs. Shitposters are gonna keep shitposting here in the forum, even if they do not play the game and there is nothing to do about it, maybe having a good option of blocking users here in the forum would suffice.