3k is average in most mmo that is not from big AAA companies.
8k playerbase is very very healthy for a " niche " game like ToS.
3k is average in most mmo that is not from big AAA companies.
8k playerbase is very very healthy for a " niche " game like ToS.
Read it again
First one is: "Last 30 Days"
Next is: āMay 2017ā that usually means the month of May.
The reason they are different is:
The last 30 days would be from 7 May 2017 to 6 June 2017.
May would be from 1 May 2017 to 31 May 2017.
Notice they overlap by 24 days at the moment. Meaning that about 80% of those players, so about 1200. Of those about 2/3 have left. Meaning that we lost 800 of that. So not quite 1200 like I said, but closer to 800.
Thatās a pretty sizable drop considering itās about 20%, and this month is just startingā¦
From the numbers up to now, we can expect to get back to around 3500 again like the game has been hovering at once the losses equaled new subscriptions, unless a lot more leave for some āunknownā reason.
But thatās not how it works⦠Iāve been following steamcharts for months now.
When the month changes the last 30days starts from zero using the previous month as a base. Itās a bit misleading but thatās how it works.
You can also count this yourself. Look at the number of Avg. Players on top of each other. Gain is the exact amount of players gained from or lost from the segment below.
Thanks for pointing that out. It is indeed very misleading. āThe Last 30 Daysā should instead read June 2017.
Most seem to think that people who are very vocal about the way the game is handled hate the game, but itās quite the opposite. We want the game to do well, and desperately want to save the game from some very bad management decisions so it doesnāt die.
I am glad to see more coming back, as I even had a friend join again. Though, I really feel bad that he comes back in the middle of this shitstorm.
FFXIV
http://steamcharts.com/app/39210
TOS
http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
edit: ffxiv is ā ā ā ā compared to tos
FFXIV have nonsteam clientā¦invalid comparison
Friendly reminder that FFXIV isnāt steam-only and steamcharts only shows Steam players.
Can you stop posting on the forum already since youāve quit? you are mentally unstable 
Jynxie got triggered for being called a dpk troll?
Concurrent Users is not an accurate representation of the total player base, I really canāt understand why itās posted continuously, itās a useful statistic, but itās misleading saying that itās the player count.
The Players in the last 2 weeks number is a better indication of total player base, especially when adjusted for more inactive players, we can really get a fairly accurate number of the active player count.
He talks rubbish for the last couple of days. He only criticized for the sake of hate instead of this game getting better. He is just a troll who is riding with hate train. Not only that he branded anyone being whiteknights who are against on his trolling. Maybe youre like him.
And you talked rubbish on DPK loot since last year, calling this company garbage etc. Maybe youre like him.
I only called IMC rubbish when they implemented Leticia cubes. I hate % based loot system but i dont recall calling IMC rubbish because of that.
I think maybe many peoples in Kirito-mode too much and they failed to see the peoples in this game actually are very good (you need to explore this but not read in forum), I was once too stucked in few of my real friend gamer too long, until they all left and I also stopped few months.
But then after I came back, and started to talk to random players and joined a guild, I changed my perspective and became 1 of the sustain player of this game. I really think this game really have the peoples of quality and social perspective that was once my best experience in RO.
If you aiming for best control, most engaging combat system, best competitive, best graphic, best developer, best publisher certainly this game is not for you.
Every game has flaw, this world is flaw too, but we just to filter what doesnāt enjoy for us and we should only explore and focus what really we enjoy for.
God forbid people playing more than one game, It must be rough if Tree of Savior is the only game you have access too.
But for real; Anyone with some non-bias common sense would understand that games like Wow, Gw2, FFXIV ect. are on a tier of their own, sure you may not like some of them but they are FAR from bad games. If Final Fantasy 14 is bad, what the flying **** is Tree of Savior?
Note to readers: I love tree of savior 
Anyways, this game will continue to grow slowly, Itās done nothing but improve quite a bit the past few months.
Casual trashy f2p p2w mobile-like game?
ToS got players back because of the balance update and the resets, but you can see that a few are already leaving. I know some of my friends left thanks to the dpk bug. Iām still playing, but I feel less like playing than before.
As @Remhad said.
Tos players come back because of the event.
And if IMC wants to keep players, they must be more smart like other companies.
IMC canāt understand that we arenāt like Korean players. We canāt stand 24/24h behind the game.
Itās not like we donāt want to, itās like most of us have a job.
Other games (bad or not) are more friendly user.
Why TOS already lost a few players?
On point 2: most of player are really mad and crying and going crazy. Me, no.
I really donāt care if was Christmas for them. Iām just explain to IMC how most of player feels about this.
Because most of them do:"omg stupid IMC Iāll quit the game!!11!!1
Iām not here to do a war which game is better, but IMC must know what to do for keep players.
And only players know what is better for keep them playing the game.
Iām playing TOS since release. I really love this game, but, since they have worked on DPK Iāve lost any kind of interest to do something, to stay online more than usual.
When they implemented HG I was online all the free time what I had.
Now, I do my runs of dungeons, Saalus and ET and logout.
When other games will come out, bad or good (itās like about personal opinion), I will check those games.
And if they are more user friendly than TOS, I will quit TOS once for all.
Like me, other player will do.
You can tell me āgo onā. Ok. I can understand.
But donāt complaying when on queue for dungeons you will be the only one.
Before 16th May, Fedimian was like a Desert in dungeons. Sometimes I had to wait like 2hrs to do dungeons or Siaulai.
No I wonāt, Iām afraid youāll have to get used to my mental illness.
Common sense seems to elude some people @Valkoria they claim FFXIV is s^hit, but FFXIV is probably the second largest P2P game. They follow to compare it to F2P that cant hack it as P2P. As you stated those games are on a whole different level ![]()