[Class] Kabbalist Overview

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 3:27am

Verd09:

My 2nd character is roughly halfway to kabbalist, so I had a few questions about it:

How many hits does 7 fold revenge last? The buff appears to last for 60-65s with a CD of 40. I have to assume then that it only lasts 1 hit within that time, otherwise it’d be stupidly OP if it could reflect x7 all attacks. If that’s the case though, why even bother with the attribute that adds duration?

Ein Sof only affects one target, right? With a duration of 40s and CD of 60s, it has a 2/3 uptime, which is a bit disappointing. That said, I’ve read the ein sof buff WAS sharable by linker 2’s spiritual chain - can anyone confirm that? Also, if it is shared and the attribute was up do all party members instantly gain 50% max hp and restore the rest as SP? that’d be pretty amazing paired with high SP nukers (fletchers come to mind)

I had some other questions about crit and crit rate - but that’s mostly because I’m running a con/spr paladin with zalciai, so I’ll save those for another thread.

From what is shown. 1 hit before it falls off.
It would make sense for it to share. However that would be hard to test as there aren’t many Linker 2s running around for testing.

Verd09 · April 25, 2016, 5:49am

If there are any kabbalists on Orsha, I have a high lv linker 2 to test this out.

Huerin · April 25, 2016, 1:46pm

What are your thought regarding merkabah?

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 2:07pm

It’s Funny and Tricky.

The Damage is pretty good even without much INT. As you level the skill not only does the damage increase but the number of wheels as well. So it’s pretty fantastic when you have a Peltasta or Linker to group them together.

However there are a few downsides. The Wheels will explode on the first target it hits, so sometimes that random stray mob will intercept it which is annoying. The delay also can make it tricky, because you almost have to predict where the mobs will go before using the skill.

It’s a good skill, but there is a learning curve.

Huerin · April 25, 2016, 2:10pm

Yep that and casting it close to the enemy would mean a complete waste of your time.

Yeah, if enemy hits the wheel while being summoned, it explodes\

As a close quarter class, using it that way is very bad. Got used to zaibas spam.

Seiryuu · April 25, 2016, 2:18pm

@sakane @Ayalon @Gringe @Supersun1

I got Pez to solve that with me and the result is surprisingly logical xD
Well, I didn’t expect it tho.

Scenario, Mackangdal is casted on yourself, you get dmg and before the 15 sec are over, a Kabbalist casts Revenged Sevenfold on you.

A. The nearest mob gets the damage

B. All the mobs got the damage since they all attacked you (back to the source)

C. No one gets the damage and its simply blocked with 1dmg left.

And the answer is…

…

…you get all the damage yourself. Not only the cumulated damage of mackangdal, you get the damage of revenged sevenfold as well, causing an instant death xD

Okeeh I did not expect that, but it shows how the skill is coded. RS mirrors the dmg you receive immediately to the source - and since Mackangdal is the cause, it sends the damage back to yourself!

Thats pretty unsatisfying actually -.-"

Thanks to Pez for the test tho~

Huerin · April 25, 2016, 2:21pm

Oh, that means mackingdal on yourself then RS mean you dead on the ground then.

Never expected referring pez would help you. I was expecting him to be afk

narulight · April 25, 2016, 2:26pm

darn! altho that is logic, still it really disappointing…
this event makes me think twice to go kabalist over PD

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 2:31pm

I use Merkabah right before or after setting up Heal Tiles during boss fights. Because usually I’m not in melee while doing so. I’m still getting a feel for the ability. I’m sure I’ll figure something out.

Seiryuu · April 25, 2016, 2:56pm

Butter was afk, Pez not xD

I’m still torn. PD are basically everywhere. Even later in Guildbattles or GroupXGroup almost every Cleric will go PD.

Gah I hoped that test would give me the kick I needed for going Kabbalist!

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 4:11pm

Multiple PDs isn’t going to help you either way. They will all just overwrite each other’s buffs and debuffs. If anything the Circle 2 Rank 6 Classes or Circle 3 Rank 5 Classes are also great options as well.

Besides going into a class for it’s gimmick combo probably isn’t a great idea, especially one that requires that much investment.

Nekorin123 · April 25, 2016, 4:58pm

Kind of half expected it since it reflects damage back to the source. But this is really lol.

Nekorin123 · April 25, 2016, 4:59pm

Hmm just an idea, would it be possible to use it while we are back facing the mobs? The wheels will be summoned directly right behind us?

Ayalon · April 25, 2016, 5:12pm

Haha… What a lovely secret synergy… XD I actually didn’t expect this…XD

One more question about Kabbalist-Bokor… I hope it is an easy one for someone. I don’t remember… is Hexing actually Curse? Can you Petrify Hexed Monsters with Merkabah?

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 5:51pm

Hexing is not Curse. Curse is a status condition, where as Hexing is a Debuff. So unfortunately that doesn’t work well.

Sakane · April 25, 2016, 5:52pm

The other problem with the skill is that it actually has a Cast Bar. Which makes it even more annoying.

Seiryuu · April 25, 2016, 6:37pm

Well, yeah then here the ultimate death combo for you:

get a linker, bokor and kabbalist
Make linker cast Physical Link
Make bokor cast Mackangdal
Get some damage
Make Kabbalist cast RS
Dont get another hit
Party wiped.

Ayalon · April 25, 2016, 6:41pm

What a nice mass suicide idea.

Gringe · April 25, 2016, 6:53pm

LOL Unexpected. Thanks for testing it for us. Thats too bad it works that way.

azalynkaradin · April 25, 2016, 7:22pm

ok, so if I understand it correctly, it basically doubles the damage you would take. So, can you cast Sevenfold on an enemy that has used Mackangdal on themselves? If so, you’ve just doubled the damage you can do to them.