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Changes regarding trading restrictions, bot policy

“Just add Gameguard” has killed games cause they think that’s all they need.

No, it just means the bots’ first step is to bypass Gameguard. Then legit players get stupid issues like controller software not working or alt+tab crashes and false positives while bots still run rampant.

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I don’t think that that’s been ignored. Rather could be a thing that they’re looking up into? Or maybe they already thought about that but found that it will not going to work or it will hinder the game further in different aspect (Most of the time that’s the reason). For them to actually tell you to send such solutions means they are actually listening. To me you seem to just wanted to have some credits first before you actually really help. But since none was offered, you chose to say they’re stupid.

If you really can help why won’t you just do it? If you really think it was ignored then let it be, you’re not the one who’s losing money anyways.
IMC is the creator of Granado Espada, in which still running I didn’t play the game but looking it up it seems its being closed down giving out the final episode of the game. It just means that IMC is giving out everything to ToS. Even though i haven’t really played GE, it seems still to be a very popular game.

In addition to that, I read some reports as well of bugs in PvP and the finalization of GvG. You should also have to consider them, it really affects the matter on hand right now, their focus is quite actually set to too many levels. If i am also to rate, this issue regarding trading is the least thing to worry about currently.

I support this a lot. I want to be able to give my friends weapons when they start and help them out.

I’m not saying IMC ignored it lol. I’m referring to those who was debating with me.

I generally perceive IMC as IMCompetent based on the current result, and I will change my perspective if they get a better result later. For me, it’s always result first, effort second (if they do have effort).

It’s not about why won’t I do it. It’s more about why should I do something so troublesome if it probably won’t benefit me in the slightest. Will you work for something worth at least thousands of usd for free (and that’s underestimating how much the solution worth, based on my company’s price)? At least I won’t. I would rather just rage in the forum.

About the trading part, it’s kinda an important issue now because many players are reluctant to play because of the restricted trading, though you can argue that this actually stop players from flooding the server currently, and they will come back after other issue is fixed and trading became free again.

Kid, you’re really hitting them hard. Anyways seems you can’t really just get the bigger picture so I’ll live it here. I love this game so I’ll support it the way that i can and i know. If you really have that kind of hatred or issues with them why don’t you just go and look for another game? If you really think about it its quite simple, you hate it stop it(that’s what i do with games i tried and didn’t liked).

Another thing i notice is the lag, you should be very grateful kid you’re in a country with good network. My connection sucks in here and having a huge delay, hopefully they can fix it up soon as well. It’s been raised already on Steam.

I wish for your better future kid, hopefully you find a job someday in order for you to understand.

Hey I don’t hate the game, I have fun bashing them that’s why I love them.

Why would one even waste time bashing things he don’t like?

So it’s either do IMC’s job for them and fix their issues without access to any code and internal data, or stop playing?

Ok.

Fix the BOT, Every Channel at tenat garden have atleast 4-6 Bot, they must do something, player report many times alrdy.

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Since everyone is listing what are the changes they want, I should put my own interpretation about trades.

I think the main thing to be done is to improve trades inside a party.
I often helped friends to drop stuff but it’s pretty hard because I try not to kill monster for too close so I can let the gear dropped on the floor while my friend waits near by.

So I think the best thing should be to be able to trade items dropped in a party without potential lose for 2hours after being loot (a diablo-like way). This would improve the efficiency and the appeal of creating a party to grind and would not be exploitable by bots since they would have no reason to use it.

About trades in general, there is no way to get them without not helping bots, the thing is, right now, people who might be interested in purchasing silver from bots are people who wants to pay for in-game stuff, meaning tokens too (I don’t see why I would put 10$ in silver and not 10$ in a one month token) so limiting trades for token users serves bots and punishes f2p players. Limiting the number of trades or amounts for non-users token and uncapping it for tokens players could be good because as we speak, bots don’t care about the trade limitations but we, players, are unsatisfied. At least keep the game alive by granting some over-called requests.

And please please please, allow us to mute someone, even on normal chat, cause right now bots and essentially annoying by the lag they cause and the chat flood in town. Just that option could be a high reward low cost move from IMC.

this will be fixed in time i quite sure of it, if isn’t it will be reduced in due time. Although its a bot, its also a business of a hacker so indefinitely in time, he will charge for it and i know people who use bots will lessen.

@STAFF_Ethan

you guys said your keeping an eye on the marketplace and all transactions? well every one of these battle bracelets are botted / traded from botters.

Well the fatal flaw about letting Token users trade as much as they want is, a singular token is only 500k a bot probably has millions of gold laying around so if need be they could just spend that bit of silver and they have unlimited trading among themselves or even other people.

I agree with you and btw you can mute someone already. just block that person by right clicking their name or text in chat.

The report feature seems like it needs a little work. So far I have had to physically find the person in the game and click on them to get the report bot option to show up. We need to be able to simply click the name in the chat screen and report them just as if we were going to block them.

Limited market trades are hurting the economy. Players will usually sell their most in demand or high priced items, thus some ingredients end up not being sold and supply for them become low hence the price will rise.

You are right with your second point but as for the restricted pricing, it prevents market manipulation. If I had a huge stockpile of potions, I could create a few massively inflated orders to ridiculously skew the price of potions in my favour. Yeah you’ll get rich and thank IMC for player freedoms but really, you just destroyed a market. Source: I play EVE