Tree of Savior Forum

Changes in order to save and improve this game [UPGRADED]

No its not. Path of Exile built up from nothing and lives literally off cosmetics and storage pages. No player gets an edge stat-wise, and they’re doing great. They even sell huge packages regularly upwards of $1100 each.

Players will pay for cosmetics, so get to work making some fancy outfits.

By the way, it’d probably be best to change it so those class specific outfits in the cash shop and make them for all classes.

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i strongly agree. no talk needed. but…

cancel the shout channel for the chat,

this is something you might want to look back. i believe shout channel should be an essential to any mmo. there’s a lot you can learn, communicate with others player, asking guides. since theres no trade channel, shout is use for trading as well. and for the most important part, the drama. haha. for anyone who doesnt like shout, they can easily turn it off anyway. no hussle.

yes goldseller spam right now is the highest issue they need to handle asap.
i believe theres alot of solution they can implement to stop the goldsellers, but turning off shout feature is not one of them.

Except the fact that only 1% of the people actually use it for that reason, the 99% of the players use the shout channel to spam totally useless message and not only in ToS but in every game i’ve seen… it’a fact that the world chat is even use in between players to “Flame” each other a lot of times, maybe not now on ToS but wait till it gets F2P… and it’s a fact that the ones using it the most are silver sellers… for advertisment :frowning:

Players still can whisper, normal chant, etc etc… in order to do all the thigns you just said tho

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for anyone who doesnt like shout, they can easily turn it off anyway.

These are all really good ideas…

But I think this one should be implemented RIGHT NOW!!

The amount of spam is unreal… make it so you can only send 3 messages or something, make it local/mapwise, and make it so that after 5 blocks that person is muted for an hour… same as RO did for prontera spam.

Please IMC! Your game is really good! Just save it @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_John

Let me be clear about this… we have about 30.000 players that play ToS, let’s say that we have half of it online at the same time, 15.000

Let’s divide these 15.000 in between the 4 servers and we can estimate about 3.750 players playing per server at the same time.

Of these 3.750 that are on a server at the same time if you open the shout channel you will see only not more then 30 people actually using the shout channel… that’s less than 1% of the playerbase AND of these people at least 5 are silver sellers.

Of that 25 people remaining only about 5-10 people actually use the shout channel in a decent way and the other ones just ■■■■-talk all the time BUT the shout channel is the primary way for silver sellers to advertise their product in order to exist.

So well… if you’re asking me if i’m willing to sacrifice those 25 people, on 3.750 people that are playing, to prevent silver seller advertisment my answer is, and always be, yes ^^

What i’m not willing to sacrifice is the gameplay experience of the other 3725 people to please those 25 that use the shout chat

yes goldseller spam right now is the highest issue they need to handle asap.
i believe theres alot of solution they can implement to stop the goldsellers, but turning off shout feature is not one of them.

at least they should try other options/suggestions b4 completely shutting down the main aspect of multiplayer in mmo. imo.

We dont have a way to share items/silver between our own characters without penalty. We dont have trade system between 2 characters without penalty - all this is “main aspect of multiplayer in mmo” too, but…

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The trade restriction is the most urgent issue really. This is so contraproductive, it hurts. FIX NAO PL0X!

Also I hate to suggest this but how about you look at an mmo who does the most things right? Make the shout channels how they are in WoW. Connect the chats in all major cities and group some maps to one single chat. So you’d have “Global CHat: Cities” and “Regional Chat: Mausoleum”, “Regional Chat: Tenet Region” and so on. You can stimm communicate (and more efficiently like this) and goldspammers lose their reach =)

Or just add more restrictions to using a megaphone (Level, Token, Quests, w/e)

IMC please consider the arguments topic creator, has. He is absolutely right. Look how the game’s rating went down since release on steam. All the comments were done by people who have bought founders packages, and still their main arguments are:

  • trade restrictions
  • gold seller spam
  • team storage restrictions
  • 1 dungeon / day without token

The paywall for basic stuff in general is awful. Most of us won’t be able to play with our friends because of it. And personally playing with my friends is most important feature of game for me.

And please stop ignoring gold sellers, where are the bans?

There still is a chance you could fix the situation, do the wipe considering the launch problems, remove paywall restrictions, rework the premium - leave the bonus XP so the people with money but no time to play could keep up with those spending hours ingame, maybe a larger storage, cosmetic bonuses.

IMC please don’t screw it ( the game is good but you are ruining it with way you implement F2P model. We don’t want to wait for another 10 years.

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Agreed, the game is awedsome… it’s the gameplay mechanics that were chosen that are ruining it…:confused:

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Ha, I was planning to make the same thread towards the end of EA. I guess I don’t have to do it now.

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@Staff_Julie @GM_Francis @GM_Sebastian

IMC, please.

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Awesome read. Nothing I would argue with. Well done!

‘The most important ones" and "the other ones’ should be the other way around.
They should fix bugs, lag…before doing something else.

They are put in this specific order because the “Most important ones” are the ones that:

  • get the most complaints about
  • needs a very shorter time to fix

Bugs, FPS, and everything else most of the times need way longer to fix and if you leave the “easy” stuff for later then there’ll probably be no later at all since people will get pissed way before that day come.

To explain this in “mmo” language take a boss fight as an example… the boss is obviously the main target BUT it’s the one that takes the most to kill… so instead you kill the ADDS first, since they’re a problem that might prevent you from doing everything else and need shorter time to kill… and AFTER you go for the boss.

Same principle really :stuck_out_tongue:

Pretty much sums up my complaints about the game as well.

starts off ranty but gets less ranty #grindsmygears

this game is new its going to have a rocky start…!!!

bugs crashes lag are going to happen on a new game why does everyone expect otherwise, i myself have no lag problem the majority of the time im fine you could try a different server or better internet provider and as for the trade restriction [if its prem only right now] i think its fine to have only prem users with it i play PSO2 and only premium can trade on that game and its doing more than fine with that in place. #premforlife

market tax you get that on every mmo pretty much so quit complaining over nothing.

i agree with team storage it should be for everyone free of charge having a shared storage in games these days is needed most of the time, they could just add an extra premium storage on top of the team one.

spawn rates so far i haven’t had an issue with this but it would be nice to have a few extra mobs once in awhile.

seller spam is going to happen lately with every new mmo [i have played alot] its a trend getting out of hand cant suggest anything for this i dont think removing shout would solve this however.

stat scrolls pay to win lol ok and i will call you out on it you free players want everything for nothing. sickens me. most games have something involving weapon enhance that IS pay to use. if you dont want to pay for it then don’t complain.

“i’m not stupid enough to think that as it is now it’ll actually stand a chance of being a successful game” it won’t succeed if the majority of the player base are like you

complaining over small things is counterproductive, i have had no problems that condone complaining like a little baby yes the game has tweaking that needs doing but it doesn’t mean this game is a total fail because of it, all the players who love to complain please leave we need more positive people in the community

i love the game so far been playing since closed beta1 and i will continue to do so untill servers shutdown bugs or no bugs.

Seems to me like you’re failing to realise that people actually complaining about these things are PAYING people… if the game gets so many complains from people that actually PAY for it… when it’ll go F2P it’ll be like a freaking tornado will have come to destroy everything.

But wathever… everyone got the right to his/her own opinions.

Just tought i’d let everyone knows that in between yesterday and today ToS got:

  • about a 100 positive reviews
  • about 400 negative reviews

Yeah i’m actually counting them.

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makes sense tho since a lot of people couldn’t play yesterday
plus, people are more inclined to give negative reviews. you are mad about something --> you feel a bit better if you write a negative review (venting)
you are satisfied with something --> you keep enjoying it
Personally I don’t think I’ve ever written a good review for anything :slight_smile:
edit: I did once like a taxi driver more than I ever thought I could and I left him a good review cause it was so easy to do it in that app :slight_smile: but other than that I’m quite lazy