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Peltasta For utility?
Hoplite to have it earlier when ti’s damage doesn’t rely on the % attributes?
You know, the options EVERYONE THAT PLAYS A DRAGOON TAKES FOR A GODDAMN REASON.
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40% is an overstatement its actually way lesser in actual combat
gungho and concentrate bonus damage are negligible the higher your levels go.
highlander 2 crosscut has more effective bleed chance and also benfits skyliner
the only decent PvP offensive swordsman is catphract3. all the fancy MELEE skills are worthless if you cant catch the enemy.
the only benefit of a sword 3 is a longer pain barrier.
Oh ■■■■ off, if I wanted to use broken english boy if I could. Literally the only error there is ‘‘ti’s’’ instead of ‘‘it’s’’.
Yes, 40% chance, aka it’s unreliable. You know how real CC works? Via effect that either have a 100% chance or art worst 60-80% chance, these are odds in your favor aka worth the risk at a minimum at least, 40% is not worth the risk due to the odds not being in your favor.
The slow does nothing unless you are fighting another Swordsman.
In other words, ignorable, people won’t fear Lv10 Retrain, they have a 60% chance of it doing nothing, the odds are in their favor. You know what does create fear with their CC? A Cryomancer C1.
Did we play the same game?
Because this is not something that someone that played the same game as I did would say.
Seems like the “ideal build” is going to change a lot if they stick with their initial plan of max level 600 on top of all the classes that haven’t been revealed yet.
If nothing else it feels like they have lots of potential mechanics that they haven’t used yet that could really swing the flavor of the month around: they have lots of control but no way to break out of it, and lots of buffs but no way to strip buffs/ punish buff spamming, lots of multihit but no returned damage (thorns in certain games).
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there is no hard evidence, you just cannot feel the stun kicking in no matter how much level you put in it. even at max. 40% on paper feels closer to 10~20% in actual combat.
Fletchers aslo cause bleed and they can do it from a SAFE distance.
And you should get a better argument than Ad Hominem.
Done more than a month before this conversation, saved in the '‘My Builds’ list when I discovered I could use other methods besides creating an account in the forums.
Bleed is a generic status, it calculated the damage deal off a % based off the damage dealt with the hit that created the status, can’t remember which was it.
There’s really no best build out there. Just skill.
You can have a full geared Lv200+ gears player versus against someone as low as 130 with proper experiences + mechanics. Really though, #SkillBased.
But but but …mister the OP talks about Builds not skills sir.
Also you don’t need to be a skill player to win pvp in this game lol.All you need is knowledge and a good solid build that’s it.Pretty easy and straight forward game that doesn’t have complicated mechanics.You just need to how the other skills works/attributes/gear/procs/buff and debuff and timing pretty much the basics.
okok i try recording this dragoon
and post here.then look game impact her
For PvP I really don’t know if Impale 10~15 can replace Earth Wave/Doom Spike. Some friend told me that in ICBT you needed to have something to “spank” the enemy on and it was the limitation. But now i really don’t know about viability of this skill.
which was to be proved
abusing movespeed
swordies useless haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBYl88EWthw
Sword Useless? Tell me more hehe.
Sword C3 + Cata C3 + Dragoon = Top 1 Team Battle in Server Vakarine.
Sword C3 + Barbarian + Corsair C2 + Shinobi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWd1KcI1zEI ( Watch 43 minutes - 47 minutes in the vídeo ).
Sword Useless = Highlander C3 + Doppel C2, this build is BAD in PvP.
Archer, Cleric, Mage is more strong than Swords, but, Swords is playable with good build for PvP.
About this vídeo, Dievdirbys is so broken !!!
40% stun, that procs 20% of the times. DOESNT proc with skills.
And last for less then o,5 seconds.
I did S3 … i enjoyed doubl slash with it’s bonus.
Then i saw that i’m neither a tank nor dealing any decent damage.
Gung Ho doesnt scale well. It actually sucks past level 100.
Cartar stroke from 1 rank of highlander, really helpfull early and still good wave clear late. If you know how to use it, you can kill 20+ egnomes with a single stroke. And level like hell.
Pel1~3 ranks, worth if you want to go tanky. 1 is enough most times.
A BLEED that scales with str is useless… literally. Bleeding is only good to keep someone from casting skills (mobs too) and to enable skill bonuses (or massive bleeding from rouge, which is physical atk bleed+ str bleed in one.).
Bash knocks down regardless of swordy rank…
But the worst is…
YOU didn’t take finesta and your S3 rank skills, are on heavy cooldowns and won’t be able to kill said enemys in pvp.
WHy bother slowing them? if you can move way faster as cataprhact.
I will leave this here.
@itzNiko
there is actually a reason to go for swordsman 3 if your going shinobi…i believe all swordsman skills and shinobi ‘throw kunai’ work with the Clones.
so in theory you can burst down anything surrounded by your clones by spamming swordsman skills.
also it seems it more practical to take swordsman3 as a shinobi since those are the only other skill the clones would copy. assuming its a clone focus shinobi build
it would be scary if those clones could copy doppels cyclone though
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Hmmm… Yahiko?
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