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Barbarian>Doppel and Rank 8 Swordsman

It’s work like savagery
It’s hit twice with pierce attacks ( tested with thrust )
and each attack give extra Concentrate too
idk the concentrate just visual like seism fake multihit or not because the bonus from cross guard is random

i must say that i have not use a stagger debuff with a pierce skill from a long time, since the only highlander i have right now is doppel.
but it seems that by what you have said they could have changed the effect but i have not read anything about it. , but to be clear you are saying that the stagger effect would make the damage double(extra 100%) plus a extra 50%-100%? if it is so, could you please do a video so we can analyze it? and please do not forget to check if the attribute for pierce “Thrust: Continuous Attack” is on, because it would make a extra hit, so you may have “active” the attribute and by that it would make one "extra " hit like you have said.

It’s like this
1st hit your normal damage 100%
2nd hit is random from 60% -100%
yeah no attribute from thrust

*Sometimes not even 60%
40% - 100% maybe

yes, then it is working like it always have been.
when you said two hits, i was thinking two hit with the bonus so it would be 120%-200%, but if is working like you said now it is normal.

Some insight for sw>hl>barb3>dopp 2 with high str build.

Atm im playin ToS INA, sw>high3>barb1>dopp 2 with high dex build.

My current lv are 267. Here my stats with gungho + 10 stack DoV

He not even stacking his DOV
You in other hand use lapasape mushroom

each build has its own pros and cons. he’s already lv 280 with lv 60 attribute on cyclone, i only got lv 50 attribute.

nope i see your normal attack 1st

Cyclone with your build and his
Without attribute i can say your damage will out damage his
about 370 ( without your +crit attack ) since your crit rate 589
You’ll out damage him for 959 attack each cyclone
With attribute and slash debuff the different will go further

*but wait his max damage 2.893 from frenzy and warcry or not ?
I believe not

the most important are skull swing, it proves great at late game (armor break = 0pdef).

yeah his max damage arouhd 2600~2800, idk it with or w/o frenzy+warcry.
but i rely on crit, ((patk+skill)+50% +CATK) that was the simple calc, of course you had to add monster def,armor type,lv etc.

try enhancing its attribute damage and see for yourself.
my catar stroke deals 4-hit in 1 charge …4.5k crit per hit x4 hits= 18k crit already :japanese_goblin:

attribute level: 30

Coz damage skill more powerfull than your stat ( str / int )
also your weapon outdamage your stat
and later like rank 8 preview their level 330
So basically you only get more 50stat to str
it’s only like 100-200 more phy attack
While i believe weapon and equip will give you more damage
Since DOV also affect your weapon attack, so high dex build also get advantage from it

Unless they give swordsman skill like Cure ( skill damage + str )
maybe str will be better

I am 2:1 STR CON build here (Sword1>High1>Barb3>Dop2) path, check out some of my videos.

My min/max attack is 3052-3253 with default 190 crit rate without buff, I used +13 Magi two handed (fire awakening +48, lvl 7 crit gem and lvl 5 crit gem stone), max petamion, 2x sissel and full set Grynas.

Latest ET video

Tanking and rank 1 DPS in Rexipher

Quick damage check on monster

My conclusion,
PvE = STR > CON > DEX
GvG/ Field PvP/ Guild War = CON > STR > DEX
Team Battle League = DEX > CON > STR (because this fucking PvP arena gives you default equipment)

P/S: I also wanna add on that DEX is really bad stats to add for swordsmen if you want to PVE, its only useful in Team Battle League, do not add DEX at all like the person replied above me suggested, STR is the actual DMG source.

What is your opinion About rank 8 Highlander 3 or barbarian 3 for Pve ?