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Ehhh I think we should be as inclusive as possible if we are to form a union. That’s the whole point lol.

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Forum isnt a good place for chatting. If you want to dialogue - welcome to chats.

I’d rather discuss things on a forum, where everything is easier and more organized than on a chat.

I like how you guys are at least forming some union to fight the market system, in English.

I’m playing from Thailand and can’t imagine how worse it’d be when the SEA server is fully functioning and F2P opens and all the SEA peeps will just blatantly cut the pricing killing the market itself and no one will ever bother listening or reading the forum in English (because most of us CAN’T read English. It’s sad.)

I’m not even an Alchemist, but it’s nice to know someone is actually thinking.

I’m all for raising the price of Roasting to something reasonable for both parties, otherwise Alchemist Shops might as well be replaced by an NPC.

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I would totally agree with this, all alchemist and all that are going for alchemist set your gem roasting to 30k! or just remove the TAX! btw why would they give tax for out items? i havent played any MMORPG that gives tax after u sell or vend an item. @Staff_Julie @STAFF_Ethan

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Lots of new MMOs have this thing about trading gold. To stop gold sellers they make it impossible to trade gold, silver or any currency in the game. That’s why market has a tax and 2 days delay to get the money after selling an item.

Think with me, if our service had no taxes, anybody could pay you any amount of money, you just need to set the roasting to 2m, 10m, 75m and than the gold seller would roast a gem with you, pretty simple. Taxes are a way to stop RMT.

I like 50% taxes on my roasting? No, but I dislike more the wave of bots and gold selling. We can survive the 50% tax, we can learn to live with it.

I have one new idea. Not sure is it good or not. Need your opinions friends.
It’s normal state that we got some kiddo dumpers, that knows about 30k rule, but can not understand that it makes them richer.
So I think if you have some free time or you just tired of their stupidity and dont care about profit already, you can outdump them to 6k from that channel.

By another words…

  • If channel free from roasters - set your shop with 30k price
  • If there 30k roast already - set same or search another channel.
  • If there someone lower than 30 - feel free to either leave chan or outdump to 6k so he will get no profit.

Just a question, and i need your opinions :smiley:

p.s. sleepy

i see 6k on SEA server…

pots are 900 ea

… what else ?

alchemist is a beggar class soon :slight_smile:

And because we are trying not to follow in the someone footsteps this tread has been created :smiley:

Got my 280 :smiley:
Not sure what for =_=

That’s sad…I made my alch2 yesterday,and now i see how useless is this class
Ppl undercutting others for 0 profit doesn’t make sense.Just set my gem roasting for 30k and got 1 roast,better than nothing

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What’s wrong with providing non-profit service while offline? Don’t try to justify picking a class for a single skill that obviously have potential competitive market. There are a multitude changes that can solve the currently experienced lack of profit without touching the tax of 50%. Most obvious problem is that every alchemist can fill there inventory with calcite to meet the demands to hundreds of players alone, so this is a case of infinite supply and little demand. see the problem?

Some ideas that may help, and could work for squires/pardoners in similar fashion, feel free to judge.

Alchemists may only buy a limited amount of calcite a day, or carry a limited amount, or perform a limited amount of roasts per day. This would mean a single alchemist wouldn’t be able to take the whole market for just being the cheapest as they would run out of material quickly.

The cost of material used in the service isn’t taxed e.g. a gem roast priced 6k would yield 1500silver profit. Since a great deal of players are bothered by tax mostly for this reason.

A minimum price set to double of what the material price. Which would mean you are looking to make a 50% profit of what you paid in material if in conjuction with the idea above.

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6k its a 0s profit.Tested.

Any alchemists here in SEA? I’ve definitely saw roasters at 6K… though i talked to mostly all of them… THere’s one at Fedimian who raosts for 6K for the past few days now… he needs to log in and change it…

whats the point of opening a shop if you are not gaining any ?

u only wasted your skill points and losing silvers to gain level :slight_smile:

and also time consume playing the character.

okay i was literally seconds from becoming an alchemist then i read the 50% tax and im like F tht which its sad i wanted to be an alchemist soooo bad xD
its one of my fav classes not cause of money but just cause i like alchemists. but now they seem useless cant make money cant help with dps your loosing more then your gaining. granted i am also linker so i would still be useful and circ 3 cryo. but i still wouldn’t be worth much as an alchemist now that i know all this crap not to mention awakening is randoms right down the pooper. i dont know whats a worse choice their crappy version of a necromancer of this slave alchemist class. look 30k is steep most people wont pay that. but 10k is way to low i think 15k is a good inter-medium so if i make an alchemist id probably go 15k

Forget it bro, alchemist is a dead class.
No profit even to lvl it for potionmaking for youeself. Cos time u wasted on that you better spend on silvergrinding. And be the richest player ingame that can afford himself any number of pots everyday.
Among alchies left only some stubborn kids that never read forums still trying to outdump each other to zero thinking its a win strategy lol

[Fedimian]
Since too many low brainers Alchemists around i’ve decided to set 6k price at Klai city til i see that all that 30k shops. Than I will made 30k too.
You have 3 choices:

  • Set lower (and lose your money)
  • Set same (on other cities and chans, to get rid of dumpers)
  • Set 30k (better once get 12k, than always 0)
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I’ve posted some suggestion to make Alchemists better in party, so that there is a reason to bring one now or to have an alchemist in your party once later ranks get implemented.