Do you even read people before answering?
Simultaneously, raise drop% of everything, including silver.
Bottom line: make it much easier to get any items / goods in game, but make it forever account bind. So people would actually play the deym game instead of buying everything from market.
You’d still get currency, the main difference is that you have to farm everything on your own.
I wouldn’t mind that at all, since I’m used to farm items on my own (back then I farmed 4 Roxona+mats and then 4 virtov+mats, for example).
I think that ToS had the same feeling in the beginning, you could basically solo everything but ET with decent items (enhancement +9 was a thing).
Now it’s quite the opposite.
Anyways, the OP started the thread to complain about the return of these cancerous afkmancers in popular hunting ground maps.
If you want to chime in and make arguements about private instanced dungeons or make random comparisons to ARPGs I dont know what to tell you, you literally missed the entire concept of the thread.
The fact that the whitest knight in white knight history Crevox is going to the trouble of personally reporting these players to IMC and sitting in Baubas cave to personally ice wall them off their exploiter spots says all that needs to be said, period.
You guys enjoy the attempts to derail the thread, I have farming to do b/c you know, I actually play the game by hand, fkng crazy right?
Believe me, being the player with the highest Team Level on iToS and 40/40 chars I do play the game too. I’ve never tried to protect afk-farmers, I’ve reported dozens of scripters during Dina Bee Farm era.
But afk farmers and even bots destroying the market - it’s just the symptoms. Removing them won’t help to fix the game. Until ToS stop trying to be an MMORPG while desperately copying everything from ARPG like D3 and PoE, nothing will change.
From the rules: https://treeofsavior.com/page/common/?t=ts
You need to report any game errors, bugs and other game play issues to IMC Games. You shall not abuse them for your own benefits nor to cause grievances to others, and pass this information to others who may abuse them for their benefits.
Players need to attack once a in a while in order to keep their summons active (aside from the current respawn of zombies mechanics). The need to attack is intended to prevent players from being able to farm while being AFK for long periods of time.
Zombies using independent timers to track the last attack of the player is an oversight by the programmers of the game as it combined with zombify allows new zombies to be spawned with new timers that allow the player to have a horde of zombies active without any player input for long periods of time. This is a game error/bug and it is being abused by those that AFK farm for long periods of time by using bokor zombify. The abuse directly results in an unfair silver advantage for the AFK player as they are gaining silver through means unavailable to a fair player.
There are only 5 channels of Baubas cave and only 2 spots with no ranged mobs, the stone golem area and the area south east. The south east area is also worse than the golem area due to needing higher accuracy to hit monsters as well as having faster monsters. This means there is very limited number of places for a player to efficiently and enjoyably play the game.
By AFKing for long periods of time the AFKer deprives other players of the opportunity to play the game without disruption as the AFK player’s zombies will attack monsters that an active player is trying to gather in addition to already taking up the spawn of the monsters in the limited space available. The abuse indirectly causes grievances to others.
Part of the summoner play style is to have the AI do the work for you, but please bear in mind there is a difference between AFKing for a minute, as the developers intended, and AFKing for hours.
Zombies actually still INACTIVE if summoners afk in 1 mins (try it, dont let any zombies attack after 1 min, then u go and will see they afk as well), but as I said, the zombies kill other mobs and recreate zombies, this is the root of problem, both of them are NOT a bug, u resummon of sorcerer will make the summon attack again without attack any mobs. Check this Vid from KToS, clearly evidence at right corner, u will see wheelchair emerged from corpse of fallen mobs at 0:30 -> 0:50, therefore, now it’s same as my post above.
I just realized I had huge horrible lag spikes ever since Rebuild, particularly in Baubas Cave
All these summons are really taking a toll on the weak shitservers of IMC
Its annoying as hell to farm because you often get stuck in animation due to lag/channel freeze
I assumed it was all the new players but its probably just all the bokor zombies
waaa it was so funny so much salt i bet they don’t even go to farm i mean i go with my bm farmer and farm next to the afk the mobs are so many that i have no problem farming i mean what are you using to farm lol i mean sometimes my cd don’t let me kill all the mobs hahaha so many salt and some can’t stop crying over the whales? just look at NA number 1 in DL are not even whales xD! i mean yes some whales get lot of silver not farming in the game but look at other games for example dragon next there you put 10 dlls in the game and got the money a normal player can farm in a week of full farming, here 10 dlls are nothing! the whales actually waste like 1000 dlls or more to get the silver they want idk if you ask me if i m crying over having the same items as them and i have not waste my real money in the game i think you are doing something wrong or just mere sal… i mean hate xD
What did you mean? 
This really doesn’t alter the fact that IMC was taking an active stance against AFK farming at the time by spawning Grim Reapers on the map to kill off AFK players. When the staff of the game itself is releasing counter-measures to your actions, a little alarm should go off in your head saying “maybe I should stop”.
Some people, simply don’t possess that alarm.
They didn’t stop because IMC didn’t ban them. Hell, @GM_Francis went as far as calling “legitimate players” people who were blatantly botting.
I kinda get why since more than half the server was doing it. This situation is a tad more isolated so we will see what happens.
that is true, I remember that, but now is hard to see a gm online, the last time I see a gm was gm grape on boruta and after that I see no gm online
in my case I never make a afkmancer, I hate them but I think the bokor must be nerfed soon, because well melody had many afkmancer but there is alt afkmancers from other guild who had no guild to avoid the harassment like many people do with them, so if melody didn’t start afk farming with theirs chars it will be ignored and for sure IMC don’t take actions about this issue until some time after
there is some afkmancer from gold seller, not only guild or alts I hope this issue will be solved soon
for my part i dont really care about them i mean i think they say the profit was like 1m per hour lol thats so little i can solo cm in 8 minutes and got 800k so doing maths yeah you get me? afk extra silver is no bad but i prefer to let my pc rest i mean my electric bill is not that cheap you know xD and well i got farm to the hg next to them never have a problem moving my mobs and killing them i mean they even give me more drops since they only take the silver i take all the items they don’t pick so sure keep doing it is just win or win for me xD if imc nerf it i dont think it will be a game breaking change so they can change it or not i don’t care xD
for you maybe, not eveyone is rich in ToS
either way, i doubt IMC will do anything, wich is sad because bots shouldn’t be allowed, especially in “new content”
go dungeon 330 3 times 750k in less than an hour go saalus get carryes more than 1m in less than 1 hour, go feud stay afk get more then 2.3m in less than an hour yes everyone CAN be rich they only need to be smart get it?
750k isn’t much considering how much you’ll be spending on potions, repairs and buffs
not everyone is fine with carrying others during saalus
feud has crashes = not even worth trying
also get off your horse, not sure why you’re being aggressive
i guess you don’t like being wrong ? or maybe you’re just scared you won’t be able to profit from the bots ?
you are not being smart i c? sorry is cause of the salt i feel i mean 750k wasting pots in dungeon? ok repari? repair is only expensive if you have goo equip and is if you have good equip you dont need pots plus you know good equip last all the runs 0 repairs i got hg 4 to 5 times before i need to repair yes i have good equip but if you have bad equip you dont waste that much in repairs lol feud crashes? so what you are going to be afk if its crashes you lose what? 10 minutes or less? if not you get more than an afk farmer lol and saalus? want me to follow up? velco gives 900k run making a new character gives 6m total i mean you can even make an alchemist and craft potions to sell and win more silver, hunting filed bosses is really good you know? as i say be smart there is a lot to do you know? you can even go HG to farm lol xD
salt ? why would i be salty ?
points to most classes
that’s not how it works if you want to actually get rewards, but whatever
not everyone can do velco though
anyway, not sure why i bothered, you keep saying you’re smart but you write like a 12 years old
oh well
I wish there was a kick option in this game. This guy suggests to afk, another suggested to play feud gearless.
Tree of trolls.