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A little help to people who dont understand what P2W means

U may be in interested in what i wrote about f2p vs p2p during cbt periods… I had this major concern but people were screaming and whining about their “rights” to play this game…

But we have to accept that imc has already made this f2p… Give or take a little, there is no choice… U cant expect imc to make this f2p with no advantages for paying customers…

I think what imc did here is really quite mild… If u’re a spender like i am, just use it to your advantage…

Okay, I didn’t used it before, good to know

Attributes, I only have them Max with 5/10, so they work for me ^^

Kezine, you’re right but this Advantage isn’t here this mayor you can play even without them but you get them anyway in Order to play here (at the moment).

I get what u mean… Problem is people are always finding faults with the systems… We have to respect the company’s decision… They make the ultimate decisions, not us… Oh yes, we can suggest but dont try to make this about spenders’ fault… We are spenders, that’s the truth…

I feel imc has been quite fair to allow freeloaders the same benefits already… Them whining abt this p2w thing is just pointless… Y not just go and make the best of it?

IGNORANCE IS NEVER A VIRTUE UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, NEVER. =)
This guy, simon, a low troll, in fact he can be used as an example of what a low forum troll is. Being a fanboy is one thing but spreading missinformation is more typical of no life trolls, congrats on being a standard for something that low lol.

PD A popular or convenient lie is still a lie sry. And no i have nothing against cash items or mechanics within reasonable limits, so dnt use that argument with me gonna lose ur time.

just as a reminder you can have a F2p game that sells only cosmetic things that does not give any in game buff and is a total success. just check out Path of Exile.

F2p is not a excuse to be P2W…

It works there but it may not work here… I, for 1, would buy a lot of cosmetic stuff… Hairstyles, dyes, costumes, non stat pets… But i wont have space for them… They are non-tradable, not even sharable on chars on my acc… How are ppl going to want to purchase redundent stuff that just eats up the little storage we have? We can only utilise 1 set at a time… And to top it off, pay to have storage expanded for stuff we pay for?

Imc has a lot of their hands now… It is still very very new… Give them some time to iron out the kinks, esp in the cosmetics dept… Meanwhile, they really need the income to keep it going…

I still stand by what i said… I seriously think this is not p2w since everyone can use the bonuses… Unfair, yes… After all we are paying for it… P2w, no… Because everyone has a fair chance… Players can opt to purchase this with silvers…

Saying this, i still have the hope that one day IMC will decide to make this into p2p so i can progress at the same pace as everyone… But then again, a lot of my friends wont be playing by then… It’s really a double edged sword

if i need 4 hours cause i play free and you need 3 cause you pay thats p2w! its simple

yeah i can expect that cause its just what dota2 and path of exile did! you can spend all the many you want on cash shop and you get 0 advantage in game like a real decent game has to be! Where casuals play with casuals and the pros get to end game. period

Seems you are right.

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I felt asleep while trying to read thought we already over this debating. Lol you people got nothing to do?

You must have so much going on if you can afford to fall asleep during the day and return to comment as such.

All f2p games become p2w, I don’t think I can name a game that did.

Besides P2W help me pay to stoke my ego! Because it’s easier to pay to be better than some one then to develop a real skill and be the best! The best part of P2W is that I can get costume to dress up my character Kawaii and hawt and pretend it’s my wafu!!

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…League of Legends? o.0

Lol guess u didn’t get what I mean but here ex: cuz it’s the same stupidity boring arguments and same sh1t fight over and over by pointing out the same sh1t with tweet words around trying to prove your point is better than other but in the reality were the same sh1t.

iToS is pay to win and as of now current patch, all attributes are 1 sec click to next level also please Ppl still can buy silver to max skill and gears. Idk why people are so blind when MMO gears aren’t bound = p2w cuz seriously you can buy gears to win, if iToS gears are all bounded then I’m happier saying isn’t p2w. Just look in the market some gears are drop from world boss that are endgame and you don’t see it? Must be blind then

get a job and stop living with your parents you fell4s

i know most people on here are children or have English as second language, so i will go straight to the point and not include sarcasm.

I work, Therefore i do not have the luxury of 20+ hours a week on tree of savior. I do not believe in things being free. It does not exist. ToS needs to pay the bills and i am happy to either 1. Purchase their product. or 2. Subscribe for no more than $15 bucks a month.

If whatever i want to accommodate my lack of play time can be purchased with either of my two requirements. I will be satisfied. Because people who do not support the company(lets call them homeless or peasants) do not deserve to give an outcry. Because they are not paying for the lights to stay on. It is like not voting and complaining about who won the election. You have no right.

I am fine with free to play players. With their countless hours of wasted unproductive human life spent on this game. they have a lot more silver than i do. Thus, they can spend large amounts of money on my premium items. The trade value is pretty nice, i spent like 5 minutes of work. and get nearly 3 days of their grind.

The trading addition is nice for 1:1. it now means that inflation will be under control with a shorter leash.

I personally like the way the game is going. Much better than most other f2p games and their marketing team.

To be clear, i will play regardless if f2p dies or not. And i strongly believe they have delivered and are still trying to deliver an awesome product.

Keep up the good work ToS team!

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Where do you live? In US mobile devices use daily with or w/o job people still access to Internet idk what’s ur comment help with this argument lol

im living in idontcarewhatusayingfatkid land, where people dont cry about everything and just leave a game when they aren’t enjoying it for w/e reason

Lol ok is the word cry is ur best to counter my word if so lol