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A first baindaid to enhancement system

Might sound odd but I meant more like that we don’t have anymore that high number of players to actually make that many DB transactions >_<

It’s possible to have peaks that could get on it somehow but we’re pretty safe out of reset events/etc when it comes to DB lag >_<

Wow the derail, manipulation and spam again by @LunarRabbit.

His objective is to spam the thread with nonsense gibberish to manipulate people into thinking he is right. He is also looking for gullible people to agree with his manipulation.

The thread was supposed to be finding ways and what do we feel about the current enhancement system period Since he doesnt like the OP suggestion. He thought he might as well just spam it with nonsense topic then if people agrees with him it may indirectly win their heart to his opinion that thing should stay the way it is. Why he is doing this? Simple, he will be greatly affected if current enhancement was changed. So what his agenda is? If im going to ask it should be along the line of “illegal”.

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I know well @LunarRabbit.
Sometimes we agree and sometimes no.

He will never manipulate me since is hard to let me change idea lol

Unlike you he is polite.

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Ignoring the bait and his intention to derail even further, because we badly need inputs from all type players regarding enhancement and damage centralizing on weapons.

I dont know what to add anymore on the topic hmm, all I know there has to be a change regarding this enhancement because I believe less player annoyance = more people playing this game. Free advertisement on players will only happen if theyre happy or most of them are happy. Good example are Path of Exile and Warframe, their players are so happy with the game thats why theyre recommending them to anyone. Anything that annoy the players will build up over time until they cant take anymore resulting to them leaving the game and not recommending this game to their friends or in social media, at worst they will make negative remark outside of the game. Enhancement is a major contributor to this annoyance. It is just heartbreaking to lose your hard earn item just like that. I had seen many people inside the game and continue noticing them while running 300 dg with my chars, they clear so freaking slow even though theyre already high level. Thats when youll notice the imbalance of level progression and item progression. Enhancement is also a culprit to this.

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It’s for that reason some people still defend transcendence.
“If you don’t like failing with anvils, at least you have transcendence to enhance your stuff with 100% chance if you have enough gems!”

Must be good for the people that achieve +21 or higher and can go even further with transcendence.
:tired:

Perhaps the best bandaid to ToS enhancement system would be making enhanced items non-transcendable and transcended items non-enhanceable? That would even justify the limitless anvil enhancement system. For a Regard Horn Crossbow, for example, Stage 10 is as strong as +27 on average patk, while Stage 5 is between +15 and +16. Seems fair, no?

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KTOS has no diamond anvil but has more people with +20 weapons… mind over matter people XD

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Wanna say I like this unique idea. Just make transcendence 7 or 8 almost free for RPG players then this will be good. Trans and Upgrade damage increase should be close to each other and cant do both at the same time. Then damage calculation would be 40% stats, 40% skills, 20% weapon.

Then make boss fight epic and super challenging. So skills and strategy matters.

The raw idea doesn’t sound too nice but with adjustments (reducing transcendence power) and more exploration it could actually be a mechanic to be discussed, i like it xD

Not sure how it would work in practice though >_<

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Finally thought of a suggestion of changing the anvil enhancements which can fulfill the criteria in the following:

  • Doesn’t discount players for their effort placed in acquiring the equipment

  • Not based on RNG

  • Some degree of difficulty in getting high level upgrades for equipment

  • Provides means of item decay (with the removal of potential system)

  • Allows big spenders (aka Whales) some way to invest into it (to help the fund the game)

Suggestion: Same equipment as material for Anvil Enhancements (Non-bandaid)

Before anyone yells that it is too hard or near impossible to upgrade with this criteria, I say with this change there is also a need to change how fast and often players can acquire equipments with regards to farming/grinding for them.

How this anvil enhancement works:

  • If a player wants to enhance a Masinios Mace, he/she will need to get multiple Masinios Maces to enhance it.

  • Enhancement will be 100% successful.

  • For +1 to +10, 1 item will be required for each level, +11~20, 2 items per level, +21~30, 3 items per level so on and forth.

  • Enhancement limits is dependent on each equipment’s item level bracket. Lower level items have higher enhancement limits.

  • Enhancement limits of existing items will increase as more item ranks are introduced in future.

For example in R9 content now, Masinios pistol (level 350) has an enhancement limit of +10 at max, same as Primus/Bertas Raffye equipment. For lower level equipment such as Manamana (level 170) the enhancement limit could be +40. Even lower level equipment such as Toy Hammer will have a higher ceiling of +90 or so.

What this does is the following:

  • It creates a safe and guaranteed way for players to enhance their equipment without RNG

  • It requires more gathering for materials and crafting, which are good time sinks

  • Removes equipment from the game, prevents the market from overflooding with gear (This is what potential is set to do)

  • With a different ceiling cap for enhancement, it allows equipment from lower item level brackets to compete with high item level equipment. Want that Toy hammer or Audra for your end game equipment? Players can work for them and be rewarded for it.

  • It allows more options for fodder equipment, like 1 stat Primuses can be used a enhancement fuel instead of dismantling them

  • It helps boost up the marketplace. Low/Mid level equipment has market value. No item tier is left out.

  • With a cap in enhancement + transcendence (not that I like the idea of transcendence) it is easier to balance pve and pvp content.

But this suggestion can’t be done without the following changes:

  • General item tier change in enhancement values. Solmiki equipment due to the difficulty in acquiring them and their Legendary status will need to have better enhancement/initial stat values than the other equipment.

  • Recipe drop percentages to be tweaked to match the speed and rate where players get their upgrades.

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IMC removed it to milk out players to buy those expensive letitia cubes just to get those diamond anvils. Too bad for casual players like me who doesn’t wanna spend any cash in this game can’t get those free DA once a month or so.

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I couldn’t agree on any part of ppl that suggest an online game that ppl wants great but free . Always remember they paying ultility same like us but we never appreciate always complain one way and another in the end what do we gain . Game are simple not fun don’t play and no stress fuss about it , lets try give them suggestion to improve, they have being improve alots since open beta . Anvil is rng and hard some ppl force it some ppl carefully done . So let’s don’t put own shoes on people mouth

I have these game run about same way and as time passes they will call it whale or other sort of mean but still hope they will do more clear and draw line between stuff , be it anvil,classess, skill , transcend each of them don’t over cross each other that would be great . Like right now too messy and coming up rebalance classes although is not a good start . Lets look forward

I have nearly 2k gameplay time but i never seen some players on any event or pvp modes…But they always stay afk at klapedia wtih their overpriced t10 items with +25-26 stuff. How they can gain money or bless shards?

And afk necro/sorc farm is back and now this is more cheap and effective no1 think to ban them…

And bots…fkn bots on everymap with good weapons…

Too fat to move. The money comes from bot, necro, rmt and exploits. Some are legit of course but in a minority.

Even though we are giving suggestions to IMC. Im skeptical they will make any significant move to change something. Probably theyre thinking already that this game is a failure. So might as well just invest somewhere else instead on this game. Technical and strategy based TOS may no longer be possible. Only 1.3k are online now, it is only natural you leave if the game is not good, we may see hundreds for average population.

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When there’s stable 41k players playing per week and the person pick the 2h AM on the day most players are on starting school again… to talk about CCU.

When are people going to meme with correct data?

Doomposters?! I’m seeing only 1-3 online atm. Doesn’t that mean that they are a failure by your logic?

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Just my 2 cents, but IMO the most discouraging part of enhancement is the level reduction upon failure. Loss of potential is punishment enough, why does it have to be compounded with losing enhancement levels? It results in a downward spiral of watching your weapon slowly degrade as you lose potentials and therefore chances to bring your equipment back to where it once was.

That said, I’m not entirely against enhancement level penalties upon failure. We already have safe enhancement levels where failing the enhancement isn’t possible up to +6. Maybe make failures when enhancing from +7 to +11 not reduce enhancement level, just potential, then +12 to +16 lose 1 enhancement level per failure like currently, +17 - +21 lose 2 enhancement levels per failure and so on. Would help to curb excessively high enhancement levels as well.

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Dude you are becoming more and more annoying. If you don’t like what’s being discussed then you can easily close your web browser and ignore this topic.

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You are so butt hurt that you are stalking my posts and necroing threads. Looks like I hurt your feelings.

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You obviously don’t understand English. Silute server… that explains it all, HA!

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Off Topic: If only there was an option to block someone’s post for yourself that necro poster would have been blocked by now for by so many by now.

Honestly you are back at it again. This simply makes me want to ignore all your posts (even if they are on point and have logic if they had) or mute the thread itself.
Why can’t you say your points without accusing someone else?

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