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Zombies or no zombies? What do you think?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Hi guys, I am pretty new to the whole bokor deal… And I aim to go bokor3>Oracle3… I just wanna ask, is it worth going to
a) Hex+Effingy combo (eventhough I have no plan in going to PD for rank 7 and on?)
b) Zombiesss (looking at my r6-8 choices, it is pretty safe to assume Im gonna have a hard time soloing, I wanna know if the zombies are able to be useful in high lvl maps?)

The main problem was, I also have to have high points in Mackangdal… I’m thinking of something like this… Any comments? QAQ

P/S should I get my safetyzone to max lvl so I have 40 blocks? Izit too excessive? But my lv1 cure kinda sucks though… HAHA

Thanks

#2

this wont be good without PD

they are only useful for damballa dn meatsehild in high level

honestly just go for both, idk why people assume you have to pick one of the other, imc neever intended for any summmon class to depend entirely on their pets. max effigy, put about 5-6 points in zombify

but why circle 3 oracle? oracle past c1 sucks, i would go c1 oracle>PD2

#3

As someone who is n his third Bokor. The reason I play Bokor is due to the Zombies. They’re just that bad-ass. (Yeah yeah, they’re nothing but distractions. But don’t disregard BWA+Dumballa.)

Solo’ing is a breeze for the most part.

As Blue said up there. Only go Oracle 3 if you want to suffer, although you can but it’s going to be rough and would do much better w/PD. PD and Bokor are marriage partners.

#4

For switching gender, mate xD HAHA Thank you for your input :slight_smile:

#5

I see… My ultimate concern was if I could survive in high lvl maps relying on zombies… I heard Dumballa is really good… I guess this is it then. Thank you very much!

#6

Being a Cleric helps with the survival thing. Bokor has a few tricks up their sleeves. Zombies are really more of a distraction than anything else, but combined with Bwa, and Dumballa can do some pretty fun things. Really though, it’ all boils down to your play style. I could personally careless if Zombies were useless, I’m a sucker for their animation. Lol

#7

They are cute. Ulgy and adorable at the same time xD… Well true about that. I have a cleric which only has 1 rank of it’s base class and it sucks. I guess as long as I have cleric 2, I can find people to carry me in high lvl places xD

I asked somebody once and he told me that the zombies are good tanker… He said he had no problem killing mobs at lv 180 map. I guess if I ditch quest, I can still get to lv280(I have a link3 that has not completed quest from lv 100 up and is already lv 255…)

I really appreciate that you share your insights with me. :sunglasses:

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#8

Your build should do fine until rank 8 where you need Pandemic

#9

how is ur build in tbl?

#10

To be truthful, I honestly don’t play much if any TBL. So I wouldn’t be the best person to ask. Although I do know even with all the anit-dark stuff Bokor is still strong, just not as strong. (Have a few Bokor based PD’ friends who do it often.)

@2tyFour5 It’s going to be a slow and hard process for you til you get rank 8. My suggestion to you. is take PD for Rank 7 and then Oracle C3 Rank 8 (If you really want to go Oracle C3)

#11

Taking PD at r7, at rank 8 I can only be Oracle C2…

@BlueByu @scarethemonkeys One question… Instead of bokor3, what if i go for one lvl of priest? So that I have access to blessing… Would it be better? Somebody also told me, if I ever wanna go PVP, its best I have priest instead of Bokor3…

#12

preist isnt a pvp class, blessing will fall off quickly . dont go priest, all u get is a ress and it will make your leveling so much harder without damballa

#13

Was there not a possibility to make blessing or sacrament 5000 damage or something like that (rank 8) later but with requirements and huge costs?

#14

nope, not that i know of

#15

Oops sorry was tired Lol. Yeah derp. Honestly the biggest issue is with Bokors Hex/Effigy combo. It’s good, hits relatively hard. However the hit box is so stupidly small all mobs must be right on top of eachother. Plaguedoctor fixes this with Pandemic. It’s a god send. I think honestly if you want to go full on Oracle there might be better routes than Bokor. Doesn’t mean it won’t work, it’s just going to be slightly painful.

Priest isn’t worth the 1 class investment. It is okay for PvP but… You’re already going to struggle in the first place.

Edit: After looking at your build, there’s def a few things I personally would change. A big one is Effigy as that will be your prime source of damage and scales well. 15/15 Hex you can leave at 4/15-5/15. Safety shield, 3 points is enough. Lastly, Cure is very potent when attributed. Don’t neglect that. (But all these are suggestions, play it like you own it. Cause, well, you do.)

#16

Zombies are never gonna be useless. They always add some cc from Bwa Kayiman. They also add some DPS and with Damballa, they become resources for the nuke spell. You just need to cut some movement speed from Samediveve and you can access to all of Bokor offensive tools. Hexing was fixed. You can now use Hexing on the Mob that you zombies attacked. So you can get zombies much easier by Hexing near dead mobs and leave to killing blow to your zombies when you soloing. At the low level map, you can save your SP by not spam your Effigy and let your zombies do the job for you. Here is my recommended skill points distribution.

Don’t forget to upgrade every attributes. Those giant zombies make the game much more fun.

#18

@BlueByu Ohh… okay, thanks…

@scarethemonkeys Alright, thanks. I guess buying buffs in town will be more efficient then xD

@e_piyachai Hmm I see… Thanks for sharing… I will consider that… But I find it so hard to summon zombies… Since it is difficult to gather lots of mobs on the magic circle and once the zombies are summoned, they auto go to the nearest mob and attack… Any advice on that? HAHA

#19

The concept is simple. Just lure Mobs first and then use Zombify on them. The others are adaptation.

The easiest Mobs are the aggro Mobs with only Malee attack. You can walk pass them and them will follow you. Let them follow you. You can have about 5 Mobs follow you at one moment because of the max aggro. You can lure 5 of them into some Mobs that stand around and then place your Zombify. With Hexing and let your zombies get the last hits, you can get 7 - 10 zombies from one Zombify - if your zombies get the last hits on Hexed Mobs and the Mobs are also standing on Zombify, you get 2 zombies. After that some Mobs also spawn around your Zombify too, take you chance to lure them into the circle to get more zombies.

Some Mobs have range attack. These Mobs make me think a lot. The way is moving the target of the Mob to the other side of Zombify, so the Mob will walk into Zombify. If the Mob’s target is you, just walk to the other side but if the Mob’s target is a zombie, then use Tet Mamak La. Some time Mobs will stand in a group of 3 or 4 near each other, just put Zombify and Hexing on them to get 5-7 zombies. Some time, I just Hexing them and let my zombies hit them and move on to save my time.

Some Mobs always move around. These Mobs always runaway or move to find Healing. You have to use Bwa Kayiman to stop them. The thick are timing. If you use Bwa Kayiman all the time, you will lose your DPS. If you use Bwa Kayiman to finish the Mobs, you will not get zombies from Hexing and zombies last hit. The best timing is when a lot of those Mobs lower than half HP and stop when all of them near death to let your zombies kill them but not let them have too much time to recovery from knock down and start to run.

The other thick is using Hexing and zombies last hit as much as possible. Even you have max number of zombies, the new one will still born with full HP to replace your oldest one.

Finally, use Zombie Capsule when you feel really need more zombies in your army.

There are some ways to use Zombify more effective. You need to have imagination and experience it.

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#20

Oh I see… Thank you… Why is it better for the zombie to have the last hit? I didnt see much description about that…

#21

The Hexing and zombie last hit combo is one of hidden mechanic. There are many hidden mechanics in this game. In this case, if only if your zombies killed hexed Mobs; Mobs will become zombies. Only the last hits from zombies will make the zombies spawn from hexed Mobs. These zombies which spawn this way will not stack with Zombify, so if your zombie last hits a Mob on Zombify, you will get 2 zombies from the Mob.