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You shouldn't be reported for "z" sticking

yeah, probably the part where they leave the computer (or the screen to watch anything else) and spam “Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z” in the log xDD.

Basically no matter what method you use, if you are making it so your character can act without you actively playing, you can get banned for it.

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Great. So why aren’t IMC removing the auto attack key?

By that logic the fact that you can make bots that works means they should be allowed.

Not my game, i just play it, i would remove the auto attack key if it was possible to avoid this kind of BullSht that all you autoattackers create, play the game …

I auto attack? Oh. I didn’t even know using mouse play with auto attacking. Better hit that report function.

You seem really salty i take it your a afk z farmer?

Sorry for spamming it on this thread as well but go vote on this poll if you haven’t already. It might be worth it to know how many of us are against it and how many think Z-botting is okay. Just discussing about it on multiple threads with the same people might not be the most fruitful way of spending your time :slight_smile:

Honest answer? No. I do not afk farm.

I’m just pissed at this really crap community creating a rubbish game and using report functions just to cause havoc.

People use this feature to report people accidentally blocking NPCs ffs! One guy got banned for being afk while his pet auto attacked due to that being a game feature.

I don’t like this community but love the game. I’d say world of Warcraft and league of legends community is better than this anime fest.

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Voted. Although, I think ban is “way too high”, maybe a “Hey, stop standing in a spot for 12 hours non-moving, just pressing Z” warning is enough.

Just play the game.
If your to lazy to grind on your own play something else.
Dont let an object do your work.

If a Z AA AFK Player doesn’t answer me he get reported as a Bot.
Deal with it.

You may not engage in any usage or distribution of illegal programs unrecognized by IMC Games.

You may not acquire illicit gain through the means of deception or unfair methods.

You may not engage or attempt to engage in any activities that might hinder the natural progression of the Game.

Their advice still stands.

What you can take from their post is that as long as you dont bot much, you wont get caught.

Reasoning:
they advice against reporting Z autoattackers, because, in general, most Z autoattackers use it while they are afk for a bit (grab food, take a shower, do some errands), in other words, they dont use for long periods of time.

So what we have here is interesting:

-Regular botter: uses the bot a lot, will get banned.

-Smart botter: uses bot wisely while keepping most of his playtime legit. Most likely wont get banned.

-Regular Z autoattacker: small periods of time, wont get banned as his legit playtime far outweights his Z afks.

-Retarded Z autoattacker:this is the dumbest of all players, they stay most of their time in one place autoattacking… of course they will get banned, there is not enough legit playtime and a Z autoattacker is way easier to spot than a well configured bot.

This is what i get from IMC post. And they advice against reporting Z autoattackers, because most of the time it will hurt the people reporting (as its safe to guess that most Z autoattackers just use it as a filler in short breaks)

Also of course there is Z autoattackers banned, as they abuse the mechanism (instead of leaving Z pressed while they take a shit, they leave for hours, days). But in the end we will have way more people getting theur RII screwed than Z afkers banned.

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Why not both? Warnign on first offence and bans on second? And possibly silvers removed completely if they don’t give perma bans? :relaxed:

That changes lot of things, you say you don’t afk farm, so it shouldn’t affect you, but i have seen archers in the middle of a room of 20-30 mobs, just 1 hitting everything, that’s tons of silver per minute, now make it per hour… for 10 hours!? where’s the “fun” in that, the economy will rise as hell, he/she might not level that fast as someone questing/dungeoning/missioning but that ruins alot of fun… you are not playing the game, you are even watching a movie… the point of a game is to advance while playing it… not advance/get richer, while a heavy object is on your “Z” key.

now for those cases of NPC blocking by accident or the auto attack pet, that is unfair, at least for me i would never report someone for afk+pet, it probably should be changed to “If you attack, the pet attack” but that’s another topic…

thats the issue, in the end you will have to deal with having a crap RII.
Math says that most of Z-afkers you report will turn out to be legit by their system.

They basicaly said for us dont screw our RII reporting AFK people, because it will hurt you more than an eventual Zafker they ban

This specific situation will get the guy banned, as he fits the “retarded Zafker” category.

And those are the ones mainly getting reported and if they get banned players rating goes up, not down.

“if the reporter is an influential individual, their report is most likely valid so we can set a priority on which account to ban first. This is where the Report Influence Index (RII) comes in. In terms of numbers, a player with 10 RII has the same impact as 10 different players with 1 RII each when reporting suspicious users.”

So thats why what i reported just now, they instantly vanished right away, interesting. I just ill roam the whole map now to further increase my RII. I hope there is a visible ranking for players who had valid reports. Forget the exp tome and title that i wanted, this is by far the best.

im saying that if you report everyone you find with Z key pressed, your RII will get screwd in the long run.
Use your best judgment.

How the hell are people going to differentiate an afk player mashing nothing, they look a lot like botters too you know. Best sit down afk or shut your game while you leave your pc. Better safe than sorry ye