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Wugushi - Tilly or Viper bow?

Heyo, curious about Wugushi, what is the better option for damage? Tilly Bow or Viper? :o

Bump so I can find out what to spend my silver on. Yay

Do you have any other elemental atk stat other than poison on your equipments? If yes, then go for Viper.

If not, i suspect Tilly will be slightly better for the all around stats. Maybe if you have more aoe def ratio gear to go along with Tilly. (and also what class’s/ranks)

Finally! A responce. ;-; You made my day.

Anywhooo~ Archer3 Wugushi3 Cannoner/Falconer is my plan, unsure still which one I’ll go but i’m leaning towards Cannoner.
And yes, I do realise that cannons have to be subweapon so aiming for a crossbow would be more ideal, but I really don’t think any of the crossbows are all that good so going for a high physical white one would suffice until I end up with something extremely OP.

But uh, Tilly for all around stats, eh? Hm, that might be the better thing then, watcha think? And if I should just aim for a crossbow then what kinda crossbow should I try to get? Silver ain’t an issue since it’s easy to gather in this game.

My current stats is 3 str 1 dex 0,5 con or so, something along those lines.

why would that matter?

I’m curious, why wouldn’t it matter?
I’d like to hear your thoughts about this rather than just saying it’s wrong, why is it wrong? :sunglasses:

Wugushi skils were balanced in a way that their poison now scales with ATK (except C3 skill and Zhengdu).

Viper is better in overall damage added imo but there are some situations when it can get you killed.

What kinda situations does it get you killed? And good to know!

When you get periodic damage debuff on yourself (bleed, poison etc) and you kill a monster that applied that debuff it starts to take into account your own elemental damage bonuses (maybe it got fixed already, dunno). And Viper has a nice elemental damage bonus along with lowered resistance to it. Imagine getting 500+hp poison ticks from yourself.

Swapping weapons to NOT have Arde/Venom or any other elemental weapon equipped usually helps.

Tilly might be better if you fight enemies that strong against poison. So it might be better to have both.

Well, what if I were to aim for a crossbow since I’m most likely going cannoner, which one would you suggest?

It is to my undertanding that different elemental atks add each others bonuses does it not?

For example if you had a hair costume enchanted with 40 fire dmg and a viper you would do: Auto-Atk dmg + 340 from viper + 40 Fire+ 340 from viper again.

Thats what ive been reading from everywhere. So in regards to the topic it would be far more dmg than tilly.

Your stats are spot on, since Wugu cant crit with poisons.

Karacha is a good one if you ahve the silvers

Grajus is probably the best you can get for lvl 170. drops from the same boss as Viper too

thought as much. Thats not how elemental property attack stats work. You get additional hit only if buff/equipment has “element property additional damage”.

Viper gives the most damage. Also there’s weapon swapping so you can keep using viper even after you become a cannoneer. If you want to use a crossbow + dagger combo instead of viper, I’d recommend grajus + venom/mana-mana.

Oh i see now. Its kinda weird xD Thanks for the clarification

Canoneer skills require the ‘‘stance’’ Bow and cannon, thats why he is asking for a Xbow.

Yes, that’s why I told him he could just weapon swap when using Wugushi skills and Cannoneer skills. I simply gave him more options than simply viper or tilly bow.

There are no xbow + cannon combinations that can result in more Wugushi skill damage than the combinations that I recommended, hence why I gave him more options.

Just a quick question. Is A1>QS3>Wugu3 a good build? what R8 class would be a good build then? and what stats ? is full dex a viable stat for this path?