Swordsman - all good
Archer - Cannoneer C2: literally the weakest rank 8, does the same damage as a rank 4 class
Hakkapelle: underwhelming, low damage numbers, niche
Wizard - Featherfoot C2: impractical (not a single video on it yet though)
Cleric - all good (kabbalist c2 might suck)
so from worst to least worst its
Cannoneer C2 > Hakkapelle > Featherfoot C2
Cannoneer C2 is worst, Hakkapelle 2nd worst, Featherfoot C2 3rd worst
what are your thoughts?
well, that cannoneer skill doesnât have basedmg so its dmg totally depends on playerâs physical attack. 
ya but peoples physicals attack are only really between 1000-2000 at most in the first place
Canoneer is way stronger than hackapell. Because one stupid skill(itâs just for afk farming,lets be real) sucks you canât judge the entire class.
Iâm yet to see a Canoneer using Smoke Bomb+burst rotation
Are there even videos on Cannoneer lol
Most of these weak classes are unpopular to begin with, Iâve only seen one video on featherfoot c2 and it wasnât even gameplay
and yeah I agree hakkapelle is worse than cannoneer, we havenât seen the other skills yet of Canoneer @etirrn
Having a main as a Kabbalist C1. I am utterly disappointed in the C2 skills. Yes it sucks as of the videos now. The only thing that is left not seen in videos is how much damage Merkabah gives as a buff. The rest of the skills have too long of a cooldown to be actually worth using, especially Double Chance.
My other character is a Cannoneer C1. Cannoneerâs bazooka is kind of fail in all aspects. It is slow, it depends on the playerâs physical attack with 0 modifier. I suspect it uses the cannon offhand damage like all cannon skills too, which makes it really lackluster in damage. Moreover with cannon as an offhand, we canât utilize any elemental damage other offhand provides (like arde for example) to increase the damage.
Next is the problem of mobility for bazooka, we have 2 skills which is at 5secs cooldown, a 25 burst (cannon blast), 30sec seige and a new 33sec âburstâ. It makes no sense to go into kneeling mode (from the animation it takes 2+secs to set up) just to shoot once then get back up to fire the 5sec cooldown skill. The time can be used to do other things like using other skills from our R1 to R6.
Bazooka will probably be a dud for us unless IMC decide to buff the damage significantly to make going into this skill a good choice to get into the cannon kneel stance.
kabbalist c2 and druid c3 look pretty underwhelming
not as underwhelming as those 3 classes though
kabbalist c2 looks worse than those classes, other than ein sof 10, but then again, it is a support class
Druid3 looks amazing imho - ââhear me roarââ mostly. How can you say druid3 is underwheling when he has 15 sec immortality with 30 sec cooldown?
Druid2 was good, druid3 is better. Itâs just not full dps class and thatâs all.
Same for Kabalist
Paladin Kabbalist can give the party insane MDEF and Lvl 10 EIn Sof looks like a nightmare paired with Templar C2
People are just comparing Support classes to DPS ones.
Fencer and Dragoon are kings of DPS? The support will make the difference.
Fencer C3 and Dragoon C2 are able to do tons of damage than any other class without support from anything since the damage is coming from their support skills
they donât even need support, they can just solo everything
Dragoon C2âs +100% melee buff and Fencer C3âs x? critical damage stance
I obviously mean party play, people donât solo relevant WBs
For example,iâve seen a Murmillo Shinobi do 1m damage in roughly 10 seconds against a Plater Armor enemy. Stack debuffs from Dragoon,etc and the burst becomes truly ridiculous.
I dont think those videos are good enough to determine whats good or not.
Here is some featherfoot c2 videos for example.
Look at this first one. You would assume it is garbage like the videos you posted above.
https://treeofsavior.com/img2/news/developersblog/20160715/pic17.gif
Then we have this one of the same skill. Doesnt look as bad.
http://tos.vod.nexoncdn.co.kr/skill/obt/21108.mp4
Cannoneer might be good combined with running shot and hackapell seems like a pvp class to me.
What skill is that even for hackapelle? This skill seems to do quite a bitâŚ
http://tos.vod.nexoncdn.co.kr/skill/obt/31301.mp4
The oficial skill demos have inflated damage,like 50x the real, thing.
Dragoon and Fencer are doing close to this in the real game.
DOnt trust these videos posted by imc. The damage outputs are misleading since they are using prolly +50 gears with 100% attributesâŚetc. Try look for those videos posted by Ktos Players themselves. Those are more reliable.
Donât belive in IMC videos. 
they are using lolopanther weapons that are all red shining. All attributes must be 100. They make us feel âWow, so OP classâ but in factâŚnah.
well, time to start thinking about rank 9!!!
Archer:
Pied Piper: Suppoer/Bard - Rank 9
Appraiser: Merchant/Housing - Rank 9
Puppeteer: Possibly Hidden for R9
Cleric:
Zealot - possibly removed and replaced with inquisitor, cleric right now has way more leaked classes than the devs planned for clerics to have, maybe its just compensation for cleric having so many hidden?
Lama - Monk!!! - Rank 9
Fortune Teller - Awesome costume - Rank 10
Shepherd - Doggo does a Tree of savior - Rank 9
Macumbeiro - Bugs? Voodoo? Rituals? DPS? Mosquitoes? Dancing? - Rank 10
Wizard:
Onmyouji - Support, similar to priest - R9
Mimic - Support, CC - R9
Shadowancer - DPS? shadow play? super cool costume - R10
Swordsman:
Luchador - Support, CC, Wrestler - r9
Matadr - Fencer, DPS - R9
Seriously guys, if you havent seen theo costumes for these classes, you need to, best costumes ever
see those red glowing weapons? that means 20+ which is impossible to obtain without insaneeeeeeee luck or abusing an exploit
they also have 100% attributes and are level 330, and are probably using level 330 weapons
that skill, by a real kTOS hakkapelle, does like 6k damage, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING at rank 8, as monsters have like 200k+ hp
falconer3 âworstâ in that you need to dump 25mil in attributes for the physical hits double inside circling attribute to do what the whole point of getting circle3 in it for.
first strike is just some extra damage side not the bread and butter
