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WIz C3 Quick Cast attribute breaking anything else

No I am saying put it in line with everything else. At the moment it scales infinitely with no requirement. It’s so lazy.

Swap it with the sleep attribute and make it only work on enemies who are asleep or take out the “Deployment Magic” bit so it still works exactly the same on all non ground AoE target spells, Give it its own skill and make it cost 15 levels to get the full potential ala the Ranger skill which only goes to 20% not 50% (http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/30104/) and give it the appropriate up time/cd. Just dont put it as a 5 point attribute on a skill you constantly have up to reduce your cast time anyway so you’re only using 1 buff and make it work for EVERYTHING thereafter. For a rank 3 skill with absolutely no situational requirement or drawback you can drop a hail for 20 seconds or meteor with that extra damage for nothing.

Every skill has a 1% attribute enhancer, this single attribute is basically giving you level 50 in all of those for none of the cost.

I have both an W3Ele3 and a W1Cryo1Link1Ele2, are you all playing with W3/E3? Would you without this trait? You’re ignoring the actual point of sure spell and quick cast because there’s a broken mechanic that allows you to have 50% extra damage always on, scales infinitely, and gets more powerful as the game goes on ad-infinitum. If that’s not proving it’s broken i dont know what does.

“No I am saying put it in line with everything else”

Funny you say that, because despite quick cast ele3 still isn’t top dps - even against archer’s nerfed steady aim (which’s exclusive to our version).

You say no requirement but that’s 2 circles dedicated SOLELY to this buff. “Enemies who are asleep” is this a joke? I can’t tell honestly.

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Can you please show in term of calculation of why Wiz 3 is OP when compared to other build? I think I already shown how thau crush Wiz 3 in term of the buff. Now it’s your turn to provide proof.

Early game and Late game (attribute level) is not an issue here. Don’t forget Wiz 3 only starts to out DPS other choice by rank 7, so what’s wrong if another class only out DPS Wiz 3 by getting more late game?

Also, saying that it only take 1 skill point is not fair. It’s a circle 3 skill, you are throwing 2 circles of potentially useful spell for the 50% damage boost (which may not even cover up the damage loss by not having those spell).

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Finally this thread will die.

your main argument is false ranger got nerfed hard steady aim is 20% now at circle 3 not 45 % anymore because it was considered broken and even so it was only up 10 sec for a 25 sec cooldown and it give 50% less casting so for a casting class it’s 100% more dmg if the cd are always up and I guess they will be with the 3 last classes , for the others thauma can be taken with wiz 3 so you cant compare the two , if it’s a real 50% increase in dmg litteraly it’s gonna get nerfed because even if it’s ok for now it wont be when there will be 10 rank , the fact is you cant compare a support with a dps and wizard gonna be king of dps by a lot if they dont change that so they just need to reduce this buff and give others usefull spells for wizard .

In icbt2, hey Wiz 3 is a sht tier class. They buffed it.

Hey Wiz 3 is too OP even if the 50% damage isn’t as much as the damage from 2 rank of other class.

Seriously, lol.