Cryo 2. Do you really expect to dps with lv 5-6 walls?
I assume you wont be using an Audra at r8 cause your build depends a lot on matk. A stage 10 transcended audra will probably be weaker than a stage 3 lv 315 lol.
For r8 im not too sure… maybe cryo3? lolz
pyro1 does more damage than cryo2 for r7
alot of good ideas guys! looks like the majority are going with sage. enchanter and cryo2 are still on the table. looking forward to more discussions on the matter
How many hits does the fireball do using psychic pressure?
I always thought the ice walls did way more hits. For cryo 1 the lv 5 ice wall breaks really fast :X
If you take pyro then definitely go sage rather than enchanter.
someone in this thread earlier said its twice as many hits compared to going cryo2. HOWEVER for r8 going cryo2 is still up for debate when compared to going sage/enchanter/linker (nobody but me has talked of linker and i have little knowledge but id think linking the fireballs would be of help but its most likely me talking without knowing what it does)
Links have a hit limit.
Each time you perform an attack on linked targets, once kToS change occurs, you will lose that many targets as links per attack.
So Linker C1, assuming you link 5 targets, will pulse 10 times with PP and then go away.
This will increase your dps for a short period of your maximum pulses, since PP lasts 5 seconds and is cast every .5 seconds, effectively making the contribution from Linker C1 last for 1/3 of the pulses for PP
You definitely could drop Fireballs, Link them, then use Ice wall to raise them and have them generate twice as many shards… but it would only be for 1/3 of total duration of your PP combo.
You basically need to figure out how many more hits you’re getting by calculating how many Fireballs you have Linked on average before using PP + Icewall combo.
@yyang_umd Also, I did not realize Icewall has a hit limit based on the Icewall level. What is the hit limit formula for Icewall tiles?
I believe its 1+skill level. Not too sure of the exact formula though.
Little Samson is the most popular player of this build and he wasnt that amused of sage. Afaik he wasnt able to duplicate Ice Wall.
Here is his channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcpo-_CmlQzNDEQDt1f301Q
Personally I rather would play Wiz3-Cyro3-Kino1-RC for the sake of compatiblity for other contents.
Trying to look at different videos to figure it out. I see conflicting things.
In this video its quite short
But in this video with just +2 to Icewall, it seems quite long
there’s another video of someone showing off Wiz C3 / Pyro C1 / Cryo C1 / Kino / Runecaster / Sage combo and killing a World Boss with it in 10 minutes, though they did need help from a tank so they could do their setup each time. That person did have +2 to Icewall as well…
If I can find the video I’ll edit this post and link it here as well. I thought for sure i had it bookmarked. Maybe I was underwhelmed by the total damage or something, not entirely sure X3
Yea his walls died after about 8 tics. Without audra, that would only be like 6 tics which is nowhere near enough to get the damage in imo.
Remember you wont have +2 forever.
8 ticks of what? Strictly PP? Because remember the Fireball Missiles are also colliding with the Icewall tiles, so they should be consuming hits as well ^o.o^
I was going by the second video on that. First video looked like 11 ticks so idk QQ. I only played cryo3kino and all I know about that is my ice walls last through about 4/5 of the psychic pressure charge.
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Afaik Ice Walls are just bound to a level based skill duration and cant disappear via hit counter but Im not 100% sure.
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checked skill description, nvm
Hisss…This is IMCisGreedy’s forum for bored people. Wiz forum is that way ->
Make a second account and play ToS on two computers at the same time and have the second account cast circle 3 cryro ice walls (and then hide in a corner while ice wall is on CD) for your first account which can be a high circle pyro Kino sage runecaster or something
Thats the “I have no friends”-edition, but thanks.
If you can have a friend be your ice wall slave, that’d be even better for sure!
It would actually be better for the 2nd account to be Pyro 2 Linker 3 RC Sage and then have the main account be Wiz C3 / Kino C2 / Cryo C3 or if QuickCast and Surespell don’t matter, Wiz / Kino C3 / Cryo C3 / RC or Enchanter
secondary account would Fireball, duplicate Fireball, wait for you to Icewall, Link targets starting with Fireball (or just link Fireballs before Icewall), cast Rune of Ice while you cast Surespell and Quickcast, then Mana Potion with Chapp cards right before PP
Actually it would be better to play Cyro3 and Monk2 as 2nd player since the dmg (int based) of the ice wall shards seems to be based on the caster of the ice walls and not on the player that procs the shards.
ive never seen ice wall destroy itself before a full cast of PP. is this a new update? if they are reducing the amount of hits for ice wall maybe cryo2 over sage would be ideal
to my knowledge PP doesnt affect the hit limit for ice wall for a melee attack does. maybe magical based hits dont count towards ice wall destroyed?
ok so linker would be fun, but due to the upcoming restrictions it will only get worse from here. thanks for the heads up
seems theres no info on an enchanter somehow helping ice wall dps. due to not knowing the protocols and restrictions for such a combo with enchanter lightning attribute
now that audra is out on the table, i actually have a question about it. as i honestly dont know if audra is even necessary.
would an audra help with ice wall dps, or just the duration? i understand it can give more ice wall tiles so i should assume it would be better than a higher level staff or rod with higher attack but i am not aware what determines the damage caused by ice shards. is it int? magic attack? only based on ice wall level? is it even based off of fireball + PP damage? a bunch of confusing questions
basically is audra better 100% of the time for wanting ice shard dps and nothing else? can ice shards freeze even without audra?