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With r8 coming, would this uncommon build change?

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#1

was thinking about this build, as im already half way done and it could possibly change with r8. even if it doesnt take r8 classes theres still something to decide for best dps.

the build im talking about is wiz3-kino1-cryo1-pyro1-runecaster

now, lets say im r6 and im wiz3-kino1-cryo1-runecaster and im thinking about going pyro1 for r7 to help with my ice shard dps, what would be the best course of action for r8? also what if i dont get pyro1? also what if i take pyro2 for r8? would that be best for ice shards?

tldr; cryo/kino build with runecaster should go pyro1 for r7 but what class for r8 for ice shard dps?

trying my best to not make this sound confusing, will rewrite if enough complaints

#2

You’re late to the party, one of our KTOS players has that and already did some vids.Just search the rank 8 vid thread.

#3

late to what party? im asking on what to do for r7+r8 and you reply “lol dude someones already done that”

nice meme

#4

Pyro for R7, Sage for R8.

Missile Hole and Blink are good for making a safe setup of Ice Wall + PP

you can also pick Warlock 2 for final ranks since it has pretty good 1vs1 (boss) damage (crowd-wise is only good with Linker circles)

Make this thread on Wizard forums and you might get more replies to be honest.

#5

thanks for the advice, so youre saying sage can help with ice shard dps (sorry i am not informed about sage skills nor have i watched videos)

so there isnt any strange class builds where id do something like pyro2 for r8 or something weird like warlock 2 and not even take pyro (this being strictly chosen only for ice shard dps and nothing else)

#6

Essentially, if you don’t pick any of the rank 8 classes(sage, lock2, foot2, necro3 in particular) you’re gonna fall behind in the dps department since the new ranks generally have much higher damage numbers than the previous ranks.

Lock2 is good, pyro 2 is not. Don’t take pyro2 at rank 8.

#7

sage + ice wall combo could work, maybe?

#8

i dont care about r8 skills, im asking for ice shard dps with PP + icewall combo

#9

In that cases moises already addressed that for you. Aside from that, i take it that if you take pyro1 and 2 for rank 7 and 8, the ice wall combo will be your only dps.

#10

why pyro2 though? over sage/cryo2/enchanter/link1

#11

well, icewall build is not really about dps, for that we have ele3>warlock.

Now wiz3>cryo>kino>rc>pyro (you choose the order) will benefit from sage, since it will give another damage skill and some combos BUT if you wanna more burst with all you have, i think enchanter (enchant lightning) could work too, 50% damage to frozen enemies will be useful, specially for your party, though i’m not sure if it will work on bosses, if does, there you go.

i feel like enchanter will be a must for cryo3, so… maybe someone already tested it

#12

Just search the vids, you dingus, they show exactly what u have asked.

They got both sage+cryo+psy+pyro and no pyro variants.

#13

Isn’t [dirty pole] getting a shard effect like ice wall? Wouldn’t that make wl1 and 2 a nice choice for r7 and 8?

#14

ele3>locks are dead, R8 dmg start to fall, R9 will be a pvp only dps

@joeswaaz
about icewall build, i duno if u should go pyro or sage. i think when R10 hits we will have wiz3>cryo3>kino3>runecaster for the super cannon build lol

i think u should go for cryo3 or cryo2>kino2, and runecaster ofcrse

#15

You don’t really need cryo 3 and kino 3 but I also think that build would be some sort of Ice Wall armaggedon.

For those talking trash, despite the fact that Elememe has already start to fall off. This particular cryo kino build is still very strong and can melt bosses like nothing else in the game probably.

#16

I think Cryo C2 + Pyro C1 is better than Cryo C3 for Iceshard dps

Pyro amplifies Icewall damage, because one PP tick of Fireball generates 8 missiles, and each missile can collide into surrounding Icewall tiles, generating an Ice Shard.

With Psychic Pressure, Cryo C2 + Pyro C1 is more Ice shard dps than Cryo C3 since Cryo C3 would just generate 5 extra tiles and be 5 extra missile per pulse whereas 2 fireballs would radiate 16 fireball missiles, and as a result cause 16 Iceshards to pulse out. So the difference is +3-11 shards with 1-2 Fireballs vs Cryo C3.

Linker, after changes, would do better than Pyro C1 but only for 50/target(s) ticks at Linker C1, so the the total contribution of damage is still inferior to Cryo C2 + Pyro C1

Edit: Actually, in this case, Kino C3 might not even be necessary if they went Cryo C2 + Pyro C1, opening up a Circle for something else (potentially Pyro C2 or maybe whatever R9/R10 choice is available such as Mimic)

#17

seems to be alot of options. whats this about enchanter possibly helping the combo aswell?

so there seems to be 3 options maybe more

pyro1 sage
pyro2
cryo2

and possibly pyro1enchanter?

and what about going pyro1/link1? would linking the fireballs be of use?

#18

so get sage and double fireballs ?

#19

Nevermind enchanter, i think it will be only for cryo 3, since elemental damage dont work with shards, still a good option for support cryo.

Cryo 2>pyro maybe? I would favor the sage build though.

And for pvp, cryo3>kino2>rc or warlock>sage, i guess. Or if you wanna try new things… Cryo 3>kino>sorcerer>(?)> sage, bat army build

#20

PP spam build? I’d say that enchanter would do wonders to your build due to the +500 damage at lv5, in theory, and assuming that Enchant Lightning won’t come buggy to iToS, every single ice/fire fragment that hits a target should do +500 damage. Not to mention that it changes your damage to lightning wholy.

I’m uncertain of what you should take for R7 though.

@Edit

If enchant lightning kills rune of ice’s extra damage then disregard the suggestion.