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Will you be a Girl or a Guy?

Ahh so thats your intention! I was wondering your obvious loathing against other males playing females doesn’t seem to really fit into the picture. You’re quite fascinating.

Well, the old days with majority of media adressing the males only are over anyways. Having noticed females can actually spent money as well, the industry follows, and they want females in leading roles - adressing not only the female demography to maximize the profit.

Hah you must hate that! The new star wars, Final Fantasy 13… well, you’re ■■■■■■. That trend is not going to end anytime soon. Well, I bet you’re looking forward to FF15 tho, for pretty much obvious reasons~

Well, seeing a female avatar being played by a male makes you sick. Let me think about that a bit…
As you’re seeing an Avatar as an identification for oneself, disgust grows within you wondering, how a totally “normal” male like you are, could possibly identify himself with being a girl and actually being treated better by another males! Ewww! Thats so sick!
Mhh…
Since you’re not affected by some outdated religious views, your disgust must source from your personal feelings and views.
It’s one thing to loath these things on your own, silently, just tolerating what the rest ist doing, but what makes you so highly intolerant against them? Is your ideology so strong or are you in fear of something you’re not aware of? Such strong feelings leading to actually go willingly into fights must have a strong cause :wink:

Maybe not considering the traditional gender roles. You can’t change the transition of media in general going more and more into trying to adress all genders equally, adding the “male demographic with female lead”-genre as well.

Feel free to loath it, but be aware that the society you’re part of wont tolerate your intolerance at all. Or are you actually living on conflicts?

i usually play a female, but i hate when people think im a girl.

ill play a male main, female side

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Lol I know how you feel. When I made a female character, there’s always bound to be teenage boys always dirty talking with you, and don’t think of you ask a “bro,” rather think that you’re some girl who likes cute stuff. People will definitely treat you differently based on your gender. That’s why I play male just cause I am a male that wants to be treated as a male.

@Seiryuu
I think women are really pretty, but they aren’t as strong as men and are thus unreliable in combat situations. The best way they can serve is by producing more offspring so the species can continue to live into future generations.

Those are the real heroes - the stay-at-home moms.

Let’s all take a moment to appreciate the stay at home moms who aren’t off trying to prove themselves doing something a man can do better.

I love women. I gave my wife four beautiful children and I allow her to stay at home while I work to pay the bills. She’s the love of my life.

Welp, hopefully people will stop arguing with the troll. At first I thought you were serious, but seeing this last post, yeah… an obvious troll bait.

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I’ll definitely play a guy. Because I’m a girl and they say there are no girls on the internet … snorts whatever silly logic you trolls want to go by.

Here. Have a Femme Dulces. :yum:

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no way you can be the cutest fencer… that’s gonna be me!

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Is that…a challenge?! :0

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Since when were most women trying to “prove” themselves?

You talk about short-sightedness, and ignorance, but it flows out of your mouth like excrement. -_-

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Ahh so you’re a defender of the classical roles. Well, OFC you’re right if you look at this from an evolutional point of view. Evolution made the most effective roles proven working in many centuries of our own history, just being questioned within the last century.

Well, the problem is by no means the evective roles, its the classical the strong rule over the weak tendency, eventually leading to get the weak party, in this case the females, getting opressed and poorly treatened. To get released from this opression, the females forced the roles to change which gradually led us to today.

Having all the stuff of experimental new gender roles is just a consequence from the change of our society, not really caring for the lovers of the classical ideas. You cant help it, the transition was initiated long ago, ironically caused by males clinging to their absolute superior status. Hah.

I know I could hold a civilized discussion with you as long as I’m not trying to oppress your opinions, which are Btw, exactly the opposite of mine. Your reasoning got enough substance after all, it just lacks the pov of the female wanting to be more than what the classical roles can actually offer.

You know what, I love females in leading roles in media demographically targetting males. Oh yes, thats my favorite genre! Makes the whole FF13 trilogy a great experience to me, makes me wanting to play the new Tales of Berseria upon release, and Kumo desu ga, nani ka? my all time favorite webnovel. Thats absolutely the opposite from your preference xD
So I’m naturally playing female characters in mmorpgs as well. It’s not that I’m identifying myself with the girls I’m playing, I just really like cute, feminine and gorgeous figures making hardcore DMG with oversized weapons on bigass monsters!!

Muhahaha!! Feel the wrath of the beauty!

If some males feel offended by me doing so, I couldn’t care less :wink:

Thx for the civilized discussion mate~

http://imgur.com/UR5ifaS

En garde!

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You gonna lose. Big time. @Hilsun is not only the cutest Fencer, BUT also the prettiest princess. :sparkles:

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Dangit how did i forget that, i’m sorry my princess @Hilsun , never gonna challenge you again (tho we are the cutest fencers in the forum) :grin:

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As long as someone agrees with you and treating you with respect, you will keep your offending as low as possible. But as soon as you’re noticing, “OMG this guy I thought neutral of just proved himself to be as worse as the rest!!” you snap. You even seemed to compare us for a second, to be at least similar since I treated your baiting behavior with my utmost respect and tolerance. But knowing that I’m exactly the opposite forces you to distance yourself from me by offending me heavily.

What do you expect me to do now? I got you to show me all of your intentions already. My curiousness about you is satisfied. And just to make sure you can’t distance yourself from me that easily, I’m in my mid-twenties in a long-time relationship with my fiancee, going to play ToS together.
Next to my personal limitless tolerance, I like shonen/seinen manga with strong reliable male leads as well as female leads, I don’t distinguish between genders. My spirit is well balanced, you can’t offend me no matter what you’re doing ;p

You’re the one going all out showing me everything about you just because I’m using the right triggers.

You should know what that was supposed to mean, right? I reached my filthy hand out to you, right after proving I’m filthy and disgusting, to check whether you can overcome your ridiculous intolerance wired to hatred or not by treating you with respect and not attacking your opinions. And your reaction told me more about than anything else :wink:

What now? More distancing? More offending? Is there even something you can use as offending anymore? Maybe calling me lying or just assuming things?

Girl Swordsman, Male Mage.
I swear it’s not because of the Highlander skirt. It’s more because I actually like the Female Fencer’s outfit more than the males. But my will is only so strong.

I also think I rather Runecaster on a Guy. But hey, who knows.

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As a future templar to be, I can attest to knowing this has given me some intense anxiety over gender choice on my main >.<

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i’m losing the argument, time to show how ALPHA MAN MODE I AM by insulting this person i’ve never met and know nothing about on a personal level. (god i’m so smart)

Lmao

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female chronomancer because 1. i’m a girl and 2. its outfit is one of the cutest

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It saddens me but I will have to mute this thread and the troll too…

don’t bother to quote or mention my name cause I won’t receive anything…

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