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Will ToS suffer from Black Desert and Blade and Soul?

Well, I won’t write about the mechanics and mindset of BnS combat for you to say its just feelings or w/e, so what do you think is innovation? Call some names here to see how novel your games are.

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if i want a fight game i will go play Street Fighter
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There’s already a stack of evidence against you, you’ve yet to bring one shred of evidence and you’re still asking for more evidence.

You’ve got no argument.

Hmm i think that will depend on the player base, i mean, many people only look to a game that give a nice look, like BnS with its graphics (even tho there’s a bunch of graphical glitches yet), same was with Archage, until ■■■■ hit the fan with people monopolizing terrains and you being kind of obligated to buy CS money to keep playing (if i’m not wrong there was a time where we had to waste real money to open boxes of gear/mat, even tho you earned some after some time, but it wasn’t that much), i tried Devilian, after ToS CBT ended, at mid level the game already got repetitive, not even counting that its a rip off from Titan Quest and Tera (some people said the char models are based on Tera), ELOA i tried in the time it was called Inspirit Online, very similar to Devilian but the skill system was different, but the rest was the same, level to max, and start the painful grind to get good gear so you can do raids, like any other game out there.

That’s the whole thing, i haven’t saw any game with innovative combat system, not even ToS, well, i think the ideas are all dried up on that aspect, unless some new technology is put out and someone make a good use of it.

I disagree. In fact, both BDO and B&S are well known as compare to ToS. Many NA guilds are promoting these two. Regardless of people liking them, when their guilds are heading towards them, they will take a look. And for those NA people look for games in a community, you can find both BDO and B&S in http://www.enjin.com/recruitment/ for recruitment, as this tells you they are more popular among NA market.

ArcheAge was due to the publisher, it has nothing to do with the game. And you never know if this happens with ToS regardless of the quality of the game.

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I thought Blade and Soul has been out for 3 years (Released Jun 30, 2012):

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They are diff games, I cant say much about black desert cuz they IP blocked me so ya, but graphic looks amazing, other than that I don’t know, people says combat boring but then again I cant agree cuz I didn’t try it and I probably will never try it since the IP block.

Blade and soul, yes it been out for years, but for many people the hype didn’t die yet, I see some complain but well… people complain about everything So…
For me, I’m enjoying the graphic, combat, pvp/pve, costumes, lore is boring but who cares xD

ToS well ill make it short and say that i just love it.

So… ill play both, blade and soul AND ToS :smile:

And archeage… since people talking about it, for me, i had a lot of hype, but what killed it for me and many other people is the bots, P2W, RNG… (250$ on Pegasus and never got it…-cries- Lol)

But anyways… You shouldn’t be worried i guess.

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And you think people never try the other region?

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most likely Lost Ark and Lineage Eternal will beat all games out there

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Since I have no data to reflect, and you have no data to reflect on the prediction, so I don’t if things will go accordingly. However, don’t under estimate communities regardless of the game. If a guild is not promoting ToS, they are not coming regardless they like B&S/BDO or not. The ToS market at the current stage is smaller than either of them, as it seems to me.

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@rhedewayhke
And your so solid argument is “I watched some videos and think the combat is bad”.

@nando20xx
If you play BnS for ranked arena you don’t need gear tho, just the skill points from max level (some upgrades from skill tree are dropped from dungs, but you can be carried or buy them too).

Being able to change your build between rounds of your match to adapt to your opponent, or during the tag 3v3 arenas to combo with your allies for specific assist times is pretty fresh and dinamic.
And how skilled you are to trade cooldowns, burning your enemy escapes and fitting combos with what is left to punish them…
Pretty much all classes have a heavy different playstyle too. (something like… Under Night In-Birth characters I guess. Obvious and powerfull unique strenghts, while you try to play around with your char.)

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I thought Blade and Soul has been out for 3 years (Released Jun 30, 2012):
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And you never know if this happens with ToS regardless of the quality of the game.
[/quote]Since the last KR patches, I am afraid ToS is going to the wrong side of the force…

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I think ToS will still be fine i will be playing B&S full time untill ToS comes out already bought my fonders pack and stuff but i still love ToS and will still play when it comes out so yea xD

No it doesn’t matter, I am just giving out facts. The communities are pushing for B&S and BDO. Some people (including me) mentioned ToS, but they are not buying, and neither I feel ToS is as polished as the other ones.

Regardless, no one cares, the the number will show. As I provided the number from BDO, it has more than 100,000 of purchased transaction (not including refunds), while ToS are more from SA and SEA, so they should decide if they want to push NA/EU market, otherwise, they should not have the server in US.

Certainly beats your case of nothing.

I think it is pre-mature yet, but I certain worry how this game is trying to make some quick money before game mechanism are done properly. They are already in OBT when the skills are not properly function, let alone balancing the skills. It is really a big concern, but the good thing is, they are listening to suggestion.