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Why players aren't coming back

Speaking of unique items maybe it would be better if they just changed the transcendence system into a “base damage equalizer” of sorts. Kind of like making it so all equipment of the same type with level 10 trans have the same base attack? For example, a stage 10 trans toy hammer would have 4k matk, and a stage 10 trans primus hammer will also have 4k matk. Just a more fun system imho compared to what we have now.

EDIT: (basically PSO2’s crafting system lmao)

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He’ still living in the last meta’s paradigm. We’ll have to let him carry from now on. :tired:

Would be interesting, it would make any weapon viable end-game then. But I would think that you would need to increase the level requirement on each trans that raises the attack considerably to avoid low levels having stupid amounts of attack.

Also, how would you deal with the Trans levels that have less attack than the weapon itself? Say level 1 trans is 500 attack, you have a level 350 weapon with 1500 attack. How would that pan out? Tiny damage increases till the Trans level surpasses that 1500 attack?

@Kihseki no… dont do this

we got smacked/shut down so hard.

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Your butt is still burning, I see. Carry on, since youre here to give us free amusement.

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you could make it so that the trans atk gain per level is lower for higher base atk weapons. That means for late game weapons with higher level requirements you don’t need to transcend as much. On the other hand if you have some old weapon that already has high enhance or some unique ability you like then you can just trans them to make them keep up with new level cap equips. I think it works out like that?

It mitigates the need to keep updating your equipment after every new set of items but because new items will probably have higher extra stats if you’re a min-maxer you will still want those. For people who already spent a lot of time before and just want to put minimal effort to keep up with new content though it will be a very useful system.

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no…
I already tried my best to explain to you how the connection works and how geographical location is a factor. It is not in my job scope to ensure you understand hence i left the discussion. I was pretty surprise to see this thread still alive and you are still going on at it with others.

If taiwanese players can have a better connection than you with the use of mudfish, what is your excuse?
Blame IMC for bad servers? You are the furthest SEA country in this region, god damn it.

see the large chunk of blues your connection have to cross?

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Ok you win , happy now? Your butt is not burning anymore? You can now smile and sleep peacefully every night.

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lol I’m just passing by

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This thread: 3/10 insight, 10/10 length, 11/10 trolling. Moving on…

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This is what happens when you give someone power of approval of what you have to say. You chose them as your arbiter…

@Kihseki
I see, that sounds really nice. I can’t quite see that happening on ToS though. I guess the least I could hope for is transferable Trans weapons.

I should get a +10 Trans Weapon for just making it through this thread. I mean, it was much like TOS. The grind was fierce yet slightly enjoyable enough to keep me reading. But I definitely paid for with loss of Brain Cells. It’s like, TOS olden days, with the Huetards, and Doomies. Ah #Memories.

Quality autis- I mean entertainment by Elesis:ok_hand:

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When i say " ban abuser/bots to clean PVP/GVG and FIX them" the FIX part is indeed a rework in GvG, actualy not work. And 0 BOTS? im sorry “ALICE” but wtf you are playing right now? probably a wonderland world mmo not ToS for sure.

And for last, you say GRIND is FUN? oh mate im guarantee you ppl do not play mmo to expende 2000h killing random monsters. They do that bcus they NEED, a fell grinds is fun, but if you ask a RO player if he prefer spend 10h killing monster or doing pvp/woe the answer is 99% pvp/woe thats why ppl run bots to get what they need without spend real time. Wake up .

Bug abuser’s and bots BROKEN pvp/gvg/pve or any kind of new system even with balance, they have so much money its almost impossible to beat a full +20(10 transend full set, or more than this). And again BOT BROKE economy its a fk cancer, you cant profit with pots or any material bcus when you go to sell the price is ridiculous low thanks to you fellas bots puts more and more itens in market and low the price to insta sell.

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ah i spent it on godess cubes & exp tomes mostly. :s i found this on the market for 1m and thought it was amazing. went from 260- > 341 in like 3 hrs. then hit that exp Wall.
if someone had a better option to what i should do… please tell me.
Also what’s the discord link?

just to add to this:

The quality of the events.
Just look at Skilled Savior Event: Guess to Impress (Dec ‘17).
If you miss just one day you won’t be able to get every item on the list.

Before you were allowed to miss 3-4 days, but now it’s just a big ㅋ^(% you to everyone who just misses a single day of the event. Sure, the golden anvil and the 1000 attribute points aren’t much, but it’s still frustrating to have another thing to remember that can’t be undone till the event is over since you missed one day of the event ( I e.g. visited my grandma for her 90th birthday,thus missed 1 day due to the traveling distance), totally neglecting that we’re living humans that have a life aside from TOS [which also brings in the money we fuel into the game btw].

For them, we’re clearly just “consumers”, and our criticism isn’t even taken seriously, as it’s not backed up by huge capital like e.g. Nexons claims.

ㅋ^(% capitalism and unenlightened society cancer, our world breaks down and even the gaming industry doesn’t give a $#!+, they’re supposed to sell dreams, not miserable failures like our societies&politicians display every single day.

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I see what you did there. :wink: Except, all I see is a serious case of dogmatic behavior. His earlier posts do touch on some legitimate concerns on this game which I agree but I could not stomach anything else during and after the agny necklace discussion.

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I like how he just ingored existence of Thaum 3 cause that would break appart his perfect world where no one without orange +11 T6 cant have enough base dmg to pass Raid Checks (5k+)

In other news
Yep most events sucks lately I would prefer old style of events with custom battle missions (PvE) or world boss afking (golden whale)

Personally, i was a huge player or RO and i follow the development of TOS like crazy, i even put 2 week vacation down for release.

The main reason i stop playing is that, there’s no community, because of mix language server on release it was a war of people trashing each other language. I didn’t even find a international guild for myself, and when i finally did on my comeback, i got kick 3days after i gave stuff to the guild and try to help people.

/all is just people look for party or trashing
no one is speaking in town or it’s just weird 14years old rp of " you’re pretty, look at me kiss kiss kiss"
There’s no " omg do you know _______ he’s like the best player ever" or " this guild is soooo good i wish i could be in there" It just felt like a huge single player game, when what everyone wished for was finding that community spirit that ragnarok had.

It’s not even fun making hat because all the pretty/rare one are gatcha cashshop.

And i confirmed, the grinding is ok, but it’s the only thing to do, guild wars are :S, pvp is instanced with timers, the mission thingy is super boring because people always do the same ■■■■■■■ one. and when you get to R5 map start to be hard to do solo which make it even more boring :\

There’s no tactic, no need for special fire resistant stuff etc, it’s just a big " do dmg and run"

I though this game will be the savior of the new trend of playing MMORPG… ALONE and rush to the end, and bring it back to what it used to be, community driver with no need to be lvl max ASAP, you had to do billion of dungeon run to get your stuff to get to the next exp zone

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