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Why is this allowed?

Gameplay Reports Hacking / Abusing Reports
#20

I already came up with a metaphorical situation to describe this, but I’ll make another.

You go to a bakery. You look at the menu. You see a cake on sale, priced at $5USD per slice. It says right on the cake that it’s $5USD a slice. You go to the register and purchase the entire cake, which is made up of 10 slices. (and therefore should cost $50USD) The cashier rings it up as costing $500USD and swipes your credit card before you spot this. In this hypothetical world, you can’t do chargebacks, refunds, or the like.

In this scenario, you say that the cashier did nothing wrong, that it’s the customer’s fault. That you can’t blame the cashier for lying about the price of the cake. That it’s the customer’s fault for not expecting the cashier to lie about the price of their goods. (because the average person is normally this paranoid about their daily financial interactions, right?)

This is a much more accurate hypothetical scenario than the one you put forward, since yours removes the agency of the guilty party (the squire/cashier), which has no basis in reality. The customer is responsible for how they use their money, but the producer is just as responsible for providing honest services. You don’t seem to comprehend the second part.

#21

Except your situations don’t apply what your leaning towards is false advertising. But players are not businesses and are not subject to those laws, its completely different lol.

#22

That’s exactly what is happening in-game. False advertising. That’s the whole point.

#23

Like i said the first time they aren’t businesses false advertising doesn’t apply to them. Its obvious that op is butt hurt because they bought a expensive repair without reading. Its a simple matter really, you want these guys to go away? READ and then don’t buy from them, if they don’t catch anyone they’ll stop doing it and move on.

#24

They are definitely a business: they’re a repair shop. o_o I’m not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you’re doing to disconnect the concepts of “business and customer in real life” and “business and customer in an online game” but they are literally the exact same thing.

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#25

It sucks but yeah it’s allowed. I STRONGLY recommend getting an addon. You could also remove these undesired shops FOREVER just right clicking and choosing NEVER SHOW THIS AGAIN. It’s awesome really. You can remove those pesky players that insist on blocking the game’s view:

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#26

Right you call the better business bureau and tell me how loud they laugh in your face when you tell them that.

#27

So if I’m understanding you correctly, your point is: there is no established governing rule in ToS that does not allow businesses in ToS to falsely advertise." I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what OP is saying: there should be a rule in ToS that false advertisement is a punishable offense. OP is appealing to the “better business bureau” of ToS by posting to the devs; if we aren’t ok with con-artists in real life, why should we allow it to go unpunished in this game?

In the end, either you believe that taking advantage of people is not ok and you support rules/penalties for people who falsely advertise, or you believe that taking advantage of people is ok…which makes you an asshol e :smiley: But I mean, if you’re ok with scamming people, you’re probably ok with being an asshol e…

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#28

Yea hes saying that because hes butt hurt that he did something stupid and needs someone to blame other then himself. I understand that.

But over pricing items/services is a thing in literally every mmo, its not going anywhere, especially when all the information is displayed on the repair tab. Anyone who is a victim to this is a victim by their own fault.

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#29

So you believe taking advantage of people is ok. Got’cha. :wink:

#30

Yes it is ok in a Free market. Its up to you to have enough common sense to watch your own back.

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#31

Why not we can sell medication that says it can kill you on the back and people happily buy and take it. The repair price is shown after you click repair all or equipped, if the consumer doesn’t want to read the given information that is not the vendors fault.

AKA why should we pillow pad everything for the stupid. Let them get burnt they will learn from it and better themselves as a result.

#32

That’s the purpose of rules: to protect people from, y’know…being human. :V

#33

This guy isnt going against the rules. Idk about you but my parents taught me to always check the price tag on items before buying them. That statement alone makes your argument mute.

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#34

So you believe the ones who should be punished are the victims, and not the offenders. “Victims will learn after they get burned” is victim-blaming; you still think it’s ok for the guy holding the torch to burn them. So long as you are totally ok with people being dishonest/taking advantage of others, and have no desire to punish the people doing wrong, then you are part of the problem. :V

You mean moot? o_o

#35

Lol except this scenario is more like putting a torch on the wall, with a sign next to it that says don’t touch its hot (repair price on the screen) and they touch it anyway.

YES, yes i think those people should get burnt.

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#36

it should be allowed. that guy has every right to charge those prices if people are dumb enough to fall for it.

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#37

Hilsun is one of those people who go to a squire to repair and doesn’t even look at the price because they are in such a rush to do whatever they are doing. It literally takes a split second to look at the repair fee.

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#38

The sign would actually read, “Touch this, it feels nice.” Because the issue here is false advertising.

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#39

Except if you read everything you see the actual price.