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Why is this allowed?

someone told me if their sign is like this i should say something…

happened to me when i was under level 100 and it sucked but i started being careful… eventually i felt safe at level 260 since it never happened again and i never saw that again until now

these stalls usually charge pennies… how would someone not feel comfortable just quickly zooming past the buffs and getting back to farm?

how is this allowed?

they obviously know they are doing something wrong

there should be limited prise for all this shopers to prevent it
but You cant just ban players like that cause u cant be sure they did it intended or not
it sux and needs changes

this person is still standing there milking noobs for all they are worth… gj

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It’s allowed, a d1ck move but allowed. Take it as a wake up call to be more alert.

Anyone who gets caught by this has no one to blame but them selves. Clearly says the price at the top.

I know its hard for people to do especially on these forums but the answer is simply to read.

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i kinda gree with you, if you check the price you would notice but sadly in this age, not many people check those stuffs they just see “105 Non profit enjoy” and go with it, which again thats their fault, but there should be a limit on how much you could price the shops, there is a limit for appraisers, why there is non for the other ones?

sorry im not braindead and have to triple check everything

The thing is, they’re lying about the price. First, the shop says that it costs 105 silver, which is 105 silver per repair kit. (This is actually selling at a loss, 115 silver is non-profit.) Second, the actual cost of repair shows that the actual charge per kit is drastically higher than this.

People can set their own prices, sure, but this squire is actively lying about the price of their repairs.

And?

I can tell you pigs fly.

And its not illegal for me to do so, if you believe it, its your fault for not looking into it.

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Oh, so you’re the squire who did this? And you’re actually trying say it’s okay to lie and cheat?

You say “clearly it has the price on top”. No it doesn’t. It has a number that is nowhere near what the price is. You go to a store to buy a shirt labelled by the company as being $20 and find out that they charged you $100, you think it’s a-okay for them to say they’re not responsible and it’s your fault for buying it?

“Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying TOS services or other content.” Lying to people to take their silver could certainly be argued as inhibiting enjoyment of the game.

Maybe add some kind of colour code to the price? If it’s above 100k then make it red? Dunno. Yeah it’s annoying I don’t think there should be a maximum price. It would feel a bit stifling and I’m glad the devs don’t try to micromanage players like that.

Rofl swordys are 2 boring for me to play. I have 1 and hes rank 5 and hes reset so hes only swordsman rank 1. Don’t have any squires, i just approve of seeing stupid people who don’t read get punished. Because you know what, next time they will sure as ■■■■ read before clicking.

When you click repair equipped it gives you a total at the top. Clear as day.

I argue the purchaser’s stupidity is to blame not the squire, the purchaser is not forced to click accept, they did it of their own volition.

that guy is worse than the “max good luck to you” scumbag

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Dont get me wrong, but just as in real life, people need to check things before buy it with a blind eye.

Its just a matter of attention. I check every time before buy a buff, cost me less than 1 Seconds. If is wrong, just change to another seller. point.

Dont expect responses from me here, I made a very clear point.

I think the term “victim blaming” applies here. Not something I personally like to accuse someone of (because I see it bandied about way too much), but it does perfectly describe what you’re doing. People ought to be responsible, yes. But you’re absolving the squire of all guilt, and placing it firmly on those who bought from them. It’s incredibly unfair and does nothing to solve the situation, which is someone setting obscenely high prices and then lying about it.

A confirm button for “player npc” services might help, like “This will cost 999,999 Silver, are you sure? Yes/no Button”

I swear people would still click that yes without reading though.

It’s player responsibility to check prices before buy anything. Just like in real life. It’s unfair to put prices high them they should be, yes, but it’s allowed and has no rules preventing it in the terms of service.

What you can do is install one of two addons that warns you before going dumb buying from these types of sellers.

I suggest you guys install shop helper addons that available if you use tos addons manager JP
it help tell you either its expensive or not ( some shop put the below cost price)
not a the best solution but the only way to prevent for now

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If you shoot your self in the face, your not a victim, your a idiot.

Doesn’t make the store selling the guns the bad guy either.

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I already came up with a metaphorical situation to describe this, but I’ll make another.

You go to a bakery. You look at the menu. You see a cake on sale, priced at $5USD per slice. It says right on the cake that it’s $5USD a slice. You go to the register and purchase the entire cake, which is made up of 10 slices. (and therefore should cost $50USD) The cashier rings it up as costing $500USD and swipes your credit card before you spot this. In this hypothetical world, you can’t do chargebacks, refunds, or the like.

In this scenario, you say that the cashier did nothing wrong, that it’s the customer’s fault. That you can’t blame the cashier for lying about the price of the cake. That it’s the customer’s fault for not expecting the cashier to lie about the price of their goods. (because the average person is normally this paranoid about their daily financial interactions, right?)

This is a much more accurate hypothetical scenario than the one you put forward, since yours removes the agency of the guilty party (the squire/cashier), which has no basis in reality. The customer is responsible for how they use their money, but the producer is just as responsible for providing honest services. You don’t seem to comprehend the second part.