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Why IMC should provide skill/stat resets due to the latest patch

So you wasting tons of time and trashing tons of used silver on old chars to roll new alts because of no resets is supposed to be a good thing? Admittingly, I’m smiling at it, I suppose😃

This game is a prime example of why stat resets are needed in a MMO. There are too many changes to keep up with them. Every other MMO has a status reset item and considering re rolling a character takes a major amount of time just to get back to lvl 280. If you think this is fun then you are probably seriously too addicted to MMO’s in general. NO ONE WANTS TO REDO A FULL MONT OF LVLING A CHARACTER. What is wrong with you people your acting like this REASONABLE suggestion is like asking for IMC to suck our dicks. We are only asking for a suggestion that actually makes sense and will only make the playerbase grow not decrease. All you people who keep saying “oh cry me a river” and whatever you are not helping all your doing is adding on to the failure of this wonderful game. Please give good advice to IMC and stop being morons.

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Show us your toon and explain how updates broke him.

lol I know your lack of English speaking ability and your stupidity are probably two separate issues, but I cant help but laugh every time you say something stupid with poor English skills.

Does that make me a bad person?

Yes it does, it makes you a horrible human. You should be hung immediately.

#NorthKorea

well any pvp cryokino

the ranger nerfs that happened to ktos (we allready had them) made alot of ranger SR2s cry
my friend was so happy about it because he is a QS3 AR 2 SR 2

the rogue nerf megathread

and now the change to guardian is pissing off not only people who got it for evasion at the cost of minor damage but the actual tanks that use it , now its major % damage loss and the skill is not even worth it

it hurt my pelt 3 squire 3 build to the point i dont even want to play it anymore and it hurt jaces high dex fencer build and it will hurt any dps swordie who wanted cheese evasion

linkers and paladins being replaced by there skill crafting counterparts

skyliner troll to highlanders

lets not forget the almost useless sadhus

i wouldnt say ruined but i would say severely damaged builds to the point taking different ranks is better

(except the paladin and linker situation, those are pretty much replaced)

forcing you to reroll

which is retarded

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I thought you had a swordman …

Let me guess, you have a cryokino to say whether the impact is real to the point of being unplayable. Sadhu and Rogue topics are from… fcking abril? Sadhu sucked since the beginning.

You are complaining about things that have not happened yet and no one knows how they will work in practice?

Honestly these topics seem a collection of tears and drama.

My opinion is that that change is substantial enough to warrant a skill reset for all priests, since the base damage from before caused MANY of us to opt out of maxing Blessing.

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since when is age of the topic an issue? what logic are you going by here?

i do have a tank

and if you mean the guardian nerf , it has happened in ktos and the ktos players were furious so obviously its going to be bad? lol

honestly you are a collection of ignorance

we NEED circle reset, nvm skill and stat reset

Since the “plan” argument was used alot, it is a good idea to discuss things beforehand to have a plan b in case something goes horribly wrong.
If you start looking for a solution once the problem is fully ruining the game, it may be destroyed by the time you finally have your solution.

@Hilsun
I didnt max Blessing on my PD for exactly that reason and held back TP for a reset potion, after discovering the kTOS change. Not playing Chap though.

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Because it`s no NEW. Read the title.

Nothing wrong with skill reset. You can find in TP for cheap so a free skill reset won’t be a big deal

It struck me the other day that anyone who has been saying “ToS is a plan-based game and therefore you shouldn’t get resets” is fighting against himself when the game is constantly changing.

If the game literally never changed, as @scarethemonkeys facetiously stated in a previous post, then I could understand that the game is how it is, and if you don’t plan correctly you will be punished with a poor build. But the problem is: IMC making changes to skills and abilities and stat functionalities is not the fault of the player.

Anyone who says that the game should be plan-based and players should be punished for their build mistakes, but also continues to believe resets should not be provided when stats and builds undergo changes, is basically arguing with themselves. If it’s a plan-based game, it needs to remain static so that the builds that players plan out remain just as functional as they intended from the beginning. But if IMC is going to introduce changes to those builds, IMC also needs to present an opportunity for players to adjust their builds accordingly, or else you can’t call it a plan-based game, since IMC introduced something that could not have been accounted for.

So which is it? o_O

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it still crippled their build

regardless of when it happened

sadhu still struggles to this day and really only rogue c1 is useful the other 2 ranks are horrid compared to what you could be getting

when is the last time you even saw a sadhu?
i haven’t for awhile

Just bringing you up to date with the original post.

What is under discussion is that recent changes in the game destroyed almost all classes, so everyone needs class reset, skill and stats.

I wanted to have a Sadhu, did not because it was bad. If I’m not mistaken it was buffed and not nerffed in recent changes.

You want a class very much and uses the Sadhu as an example, you do not have one. This is exactly what 95% of people who want this reset are doing here. And giving class reset to people won`t fix Sadhu.

I only asked for that guy to show his character for me to understand why it was “lost” in the last patch.

I dont really see how a free reset is warranted.
Did Blessing get worse with that patch? No.
Do you have benefits from that patch, even though you only have blessing level 3? Yes.

If the blessing change made your character worse and lose damage then i’d understand your point and i think a reset might be warranted.
However, since your character instead got improved, even though Blessing 3 has not as good benefits as Blessing 15 it’s still an improvement, i don’t really see why a free reset is warranted.
Your character is as good as before or even better than before, what is it that you’re complaining about? You might regretting that you didn’t take Blessing 15 in the first place, but that’s not IMCs fault, it was your own decision.

There is no way to guarantee that a complex program is completely bug free.

@Sayurichan

First question: Do you play a character based on priest? If not, you are disqualified from discussing a free reset based on this example.
Priests have many useful skills and as stated, before the change, maxing Blessing was not a very prudent thing to do. The points could be put into better use. And those who bought a skill reset over this issue had to take points from other skills to max Blessing.
You ignore the whole point made clear by many people so far. It may be the player’s decision not to max Blessing, but what was it based on? Right, the lack of information. Had we known beforehand kTOS will get such a change…

Seems like people here like to be on the top of the chart, every single time. “OMG skillz changed, killed my char”. I’m laughing SO ■■■■■■■ HARD at those guys who stated and flamed @akisera with that “peltasta is must have” bullshit. Hahaha.

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