no wow is not the slightest p2w, first its a game thats been around for more than 10 years and where level means nothing you can get to max lv in 1 day, not tos where leveling MUST BE HARD and xp tomes makes it much easier. Second, like i said 10 times, boe gear in wow is totally crap and you cant even put your feet at endgame progression with it, while in tos i can buy tons of tokens and enchants, sell them and get almost bis gear to endgame in 5 min
no its not you can get lv 90 in 2 days and level means nothing at wow because the game is around for more than 10 years.
But in tos lv means EVERYTHING so a xp tome is totally p2w
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did you like this kind of p2w casual?
Well i suppose thats the big difference … LoL is a really skill based game…
While most mmos are not to this extend .
Sure there are good player and there are bad player but its mostly around understanding the mechanics … and a lot depends on build / equip .
The execution is not that complex (well i was not farming earth tower or somthing before u all start to flame me)… and a lot of this game is about building up ur charakter with silver .
And well there is a disparity in time / effort >> buying silver.
Btw i don’t think that this disparity is that huge around the tp shop itself but more around goldseller / botter / and well in the price difference in the founder packs at the start .
But a mmo will never have this kind of esport system like LoL because most of the motivation is in progress ur charakter and to distinguish ur charakter from the rest .
And the more systems the game gives for u the better it is .
But sure u will really hardly be able to compete with someone who buys well lets say 10 billions silver with just normal playing .
And well the feel at which point its too much p2w should everyone have for himself.
For example u can maybe get enchanting scroll but drop they to a reasonable amount : NO…
U can buy ur hats well this works quite well and i saw a lot of pretty good ones for decent prices but lets say the price would skyrocket … at which point it makes no sense anymore to farm the silver and just buy scrolls / silver.
Abandon ToS, get back to your WoW and everyone lives happily ever after. Your personal definitions of “p2w” and “totally crap” are really out of the trend / reality.
In the end, if you’re not satisfied with the game, DON’T PLAY IT. Period. Go be your heroic “hardcore player” and feed into that feeling of superiority.
no its not, like i said only casuals think my definiton of p2w is wrong. Any hardcore player knows im 100% right.
And yes im not satisfied with p2w crap and like i said only playing until legion is out, then ill go back to a REAL mmo where skill and not my wallet really matter
and btw its not a feeling of superiority, its real superiority over casuals and wanna be cashers like you.
dont you ever compare a hardcore gamer with a skilless pixel casher
Literally what
this is a rare case
Who in the world prides over “casuals” in a social mmo with close to none competition, but still argues about P2W stuff
i just
man this is just hilarious
How empty your life must be to say that out loud, with pride, to everyone
I AM NOT A CASUAL WANNABE HARDCORE GAMER THAT BUYS PIXELS WITH CASH
This is too much for me, oh god
thank you, really
Jesus christ
Maxlevel is everything in wow, you won’t be able to do the newest content/raids if your not max lvl. Just because you can level your toon from 1-90 in two days won’t change the fact that you can pay blizzard to skip the leveling process. Also xp tome just gives 30% bonus xp for an hour while in wow you can skip the leveling process itself.
no, but it can buy you education. gimme your email address i’ll send you some money for you to go to school. If you’re shy about it, you can leave me a private message here. 
Why are you feeding the troll, like…why?
cause i want to give him the attention that he yearns for. Because mommy and daddy doesnt love him… and for the glory of satan of course 
yeah but the leveling process in wow also doesn’t matter at all
Well the point doesnt stand because you mentioned ‘‘most classes’’ but then only give Wizard examples. 
In PvP or against mobs with a lot of knockback (some mobs every hit has a knockback effect), especially a number of bosses it does have its uses.
That would be a good point if abilities did not have seperate cooldowns, or werent somewhat different in their uses.
Is it really needed to have 4 somewhat different abilities in one circle? No. Is it nice to have the extra choice? Yes.
play further before judging. Especially on other classes that u never played. Most of the skills i see are quite different. Fire Pillar long cd is because it is a CC skill. You never use it before isn’t it? It can stuck enemy inside. Unlike fireball and fireground cant do so. From these statement of yours already shown that you play without think and plan much.
Btw I agreed with some of your other points tho. Equipment should have more variation. But then this game level cap is still unknown. We gonna understand that they are hard to plan for so many equipments for different classes just for pre-level cap equipments. Hope you understand what i am saying here. And I don think there are any difference compared to other mmorpg nowadays. In the end most of the players are trying to use the strongest equipment anyway. If you wan compare to RO, its just a level99 game and it can be easily planned for what end game equipment should have, which TOS havent reach that point yet.
This game is only half ready, maybe it will be a good game in a year or two, but now the game is dull and not worth it to play it.
