I do agree that the controller targetting could do with improvement.
Donât blame the archer blame the human behind the wheel. Most the time you can avoid it by giving them the âright awayâ but yea some humans will be humans.
In my experience most killsteals are done by archers. And iâm not talking about archers that could not know that the monster was already being attacked by me.
Most are blatantly walking up and then unload their skills, so there is absolutely no way they couldnât see me attacking the monsters.
And the more of these âencountersâ with archer players i have the more i grow to hate archer class players in general.
If the killsteal class distribution were a bit more even then i couldnât really have anything against archers, but seeing how >90% of all killstealers seem to be archer players i canât help but dislike archers the moment i see them.
Are you saying its the fault of the person who is getting killstealed for getting killstealed?
Boy, with that kind of logic iâd hate to see you as a judge, blaming victims and not the aggressorsâŚ
Sure, we can blame the players who play archer classes. However, we can also partly blame archer class for making it so easy for them to killsteal.
Other classes arenât even nearly as effective in killstealing as archer classes are, due to archer classes having skills that reach even offscreen targets and no-casting-time-long-range high dps
Killstealing is part of the game? Where did you get that idea?
True, itâs worse when melee classes killsteal, because they have even less of an excuse to do it.
However, fact is that the amount of archer class killstealers far, far, FAR outnumber melee classes killstealers (at least based on my experience), so archers killstealing is the far bigger issue.
Then at least make sure you have the right target before starting to attack.
Itâs not the other players fault that your control sheme sucks, so when using an unreliable control sheme archers should at least be a bit more careful and respectful towards other players instead of mindlessly spamming their attacks regardless whether they killsteal or not.
Iâve never seen anyone saying sorry for killstealing. Even worse, even when they killsteal and you pick another target, most will continue killstealing the new target aswell.
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Very true. After leveling mages time and again I see that difference all the time.
Was about to argue that the only instances Iâve been ksâd were under competitive circumstances. Cause you know, the gameâs spawn rate isnât working and all. But now that I think about it, Iâve been subconsciously staying away from archers. 
KSing is a subtle way of say get out of my play space. If you run into the room I am fighting in I will attack every mob in front of you so get the hell out. I donât know you. You are actively stealing my experience. If I were at a restaurant and was eating a my meal does that give you the reason to sit down at my table and start eating off my plate. No it doesnât get the hell out here.
This is only an issue if the archers follow you then it could be considered griefing.
They do if itâs accidentalâŚ
This isnt the first game ever where this question pops up. Archers class attracts assholes like a magnet.
Its part of the game because its possible to KS. Just like its possible to die. You might not like it, but its there and part of the game.
Anyone who goes to the forums asking IMC to fix this aspect though, i see as babies.
Think of it like open world pvp. Its a great thing. Sure, you might get inconvenienced because people keep killing you over and over, but this is part of the games charm i guess?.. hmm idk how to explain it⌠Games that bring out emotion are good and ones that dont are boring and bad? idk.
Wait til I deliberately KS you to death. And I wont be sorry!
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As an archer, i get KSâd (or at least ppl try to KS) a lot. Itâs like ppl dont see me using scatter caltrops and charging an skill at mobs or something, because the momment i throw attacks at the enemies they go towards them like magnets before my skill finishes charging⌠not like it matters since i outdmg them anyway, but i wonder if ppl are just trying to KS me because im an Archer or what.
Because the loot, and the exp 
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I already do that all the time and it is hilarious. 
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dude, I am an archer (Ranger-Fletcher) and I know your feel. Actually with running shot buff, QS does not need to kick mouse to shot. They just keep pressing Z and run aroud. And hell yeah, that player has a bad play attitude because we often say sorry to whom we KS-ed.
By that logic it would be allowed to exploit bugs, because itâs possible and bugs are literally part of the game.
Item duping would be allowed, since itâs possible and the game allows you to do it with what is given to you in the game.
You see how following that logic would make the game far worse?
Just because something possible it does not neccessarily mean that itâs intended or acceptable.
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As an archer, i get KSâd (or at least ppl try to KS) a lot. Itâs like ppl dont see me using scatter caltrops and charging an skill at mobs or something, because the momment i throw attacks at the enemies they go towards them like magnets before my skill finishes charging⌠not like it matters since i outdmg them anyway, but i wonder if ppl are just trying to KS me because im an Archer or what.[/quote]
I think there is a difference between killstealing someone who is actively fighting or killstealing someone who is charging up a skill.
If you see someone attacking a monster, aka hitting it, the monster is fighting back, damage numbers are flying around, then it should be obvious.
Charging skills on the other hand is not immedtiately identifiable, since when they come on your screen they might not see you targeting or actively engaging a monster, but just see you standing around. If the monster is charging you, then i agree, however if a mob is not charging/attacking you but you stand there for 3~10 seconds charging up a skill then it might be understandable that other players do not immediately recognize it that you are attacking and which monster you are attacking.
[quote=âjgtogi, post:25, topic:246982â]
KSing is a subtle way of say get out of my play space. If you run into the room I am fighting in I will attack every mob in front of you so get the hell out. I donât know you. You are actively stealing my experience. If I were at a restaurant and was eating a my meal does that give you the reason to sit down at my table and start eating off my plate. No it doesnât get the hell out here.[/quote]
Well, if thatâs how you behave in the presence of other people then you should learn some manners. Just because you donât know others it doesnât mean that itâs ok to behave like a complete egotistical antisocial â â â â â â â . Also : While you donât like others to âsteal your experienceâ, iâm pretty sure youâd hate it if others stole your experience. So get some manners and decent behaviour when other people are present. Youâre not the owner of a map, youâre not the owner of monsters.
About your restaurant analogy:
Your analogy doesnât work. If we were to use your analogy then a killstealer would be a person whoâs stealing food someone else already is eating. No fair player with decent manners would try to eat your food, you as the killstealer would be stealing other peoples food, aka itâs you whoâs doing the rude and wrong things in that situation.
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Thats just stupid. Bugs are obviously not supposed to be there. Are you saying the intended to make it impossible to KS, but it just accidentally happened to be this way?
See how following that logic is stupid?
I never said it should be acceptable to KS. it should be frowned on, but that doesnt mean they need to change the whole system up.
Maybe they should allow people to put bounties on other peoples heads? that would be cool.
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Well the scenario is usually mostly like this, player was sitting, i was standing, monster i need for quest spawns, so i throw caltrops at them, dealing damage and making them immobile for a few seconds while i charge Multi Hit at them, in that meantime, the other player got up and went to attack them, i still outdamaged and dealt last hit, but i donât understand why they didnt even see me using the scatter caltrops hitting the mobs.
hahaha itâs not deflected shots. Seen plenty of archers just ignore all the mobs in the area except for my linked one. Theyâre passing through, they see a link, and oh boy they gotta shoot. Also, consistently aiming at my mob with autos. def not accidental my lord
I also nearly never intrude on peopleâs maps (whole map claiming is generally dumb though) since 1. I canât compete with them 2. itâs rude. So most of these instances, Iâm just doing my own thing in my own area that I made sure nobody else was using.
Itâs even worse since I kill so slowly as a full support that it takes one shot for them to claim the mob. I can use stop, but there are a ridiculous amount of ksers who literally take the time to wait out the 9 seconds just to ks me. jfc. Like, it doesnât happen all the time esp since I usually just give up as soon as I know they want my mob, but it happens way more than youâd expect. It happened today!
god damn Iâm so full of salt
Try reaching one first.
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