As per title ,which of these builds suits the terms Full Support better.The only different for these 2 builds is the chaplain and dievdriby class. Also in mind is the Earth Tower which is why I chose Diev’s statue for the boost.
The chaplain was suggested due to its abnormal buff on the deploy capella.Also the Aspergillum is awesome to deal some DPS .
I vote for the second… But pick priest first. Like Cleric - Priest - Diev. It will make your leveling easier, unless you have a fixed and active party to do the damage for you on the early levels.
Thx for the suggestion,the build there is to summarize my entire class selection.
The class order are in straight order for me to easier simulate the skill .
I’m doing a similar build, thinking on picking krivis, pardoner, palladin or diev for the filling before plage doctor… All have some really viable support, specially for a high SPR build.
Derby1 won’t be all that useful for ET. You need at least 2 for owl statue and carve world tree.
A fully optimized group will take a derby2 over you every time. If you want to go priest3 you are better off with the chaplain build.
im having the same problem
im going cleric 2 > priest 2 > diev 2 > pd 1
is that even viable?
Priest 2 just seems lackluster to me. IMO priest is either you get 1 circle for +130 blessing and res, or go all the way to 3 for 10 massheal/revive and Stone Skin.
Revive 5 is meh and mass heal 5 is just as meh.
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Priest 2 just seems lackluster to me. IMO priest is either you get 1 circle for +130 blessing and res, or go all the way to 3 for 10 massheal/revive and Stone Skin.
Revive 5 is meh and mass heal 5 is just as meh.
[/quote]It’s hard to discourage people from this because we have quite a number of people who wants to be able to do a bit of everything.
Let’s not forget two things:
The most extreme example I’ve seen is a Cleric1/Krivis1/Priest1/Paladin1/Monk the other day and who knows what’s his 6th rank.
He never have enough time casting all his buffs, sometimes even forgetting to casti Daino, and sometimes overriding my Priest’s Blessing. And enough time means both cooldown-wise, and he needs to chase up to a mobile party, making sure they’re within aoe range and so on. When you have an archer that ALWAYS stays outside of the aoe and ‘tanks’ that can’t sit still and pull all the mobs and run around because he’s actually scared of damage…
Clerics can do everything. Figure out what you can do before aiming to take as many things as possible.
When I do Monk stuff, I often forget about Priest stuff. When I do Priest stuff, I don’t have time for Monk stuff. I’m always glad to have a second Priest3 in my party because I can focus on punching instead of having to sit still and make sure the rest of the party don’t do stupid things.
And I know a lot of people mention Earth Tower.
Let’s be real. How many of you guys are gonna play enough to reach Earth Tower before getting bored of your character and decide something else is more fun to play.
Earth Tower bulds are often special. Focus on what you want to play if this is your first char. If this is your second char or more, you should know what it needs, as in why did you make it in the first place.
Appreciate that this is one of the rare games where even wrong choices can work out somehow. Earth Tower is special, don’t use it as a baseline except if you’re specifically going ET build. Most days you’re gonna party with pugs in dungeons. Even lv280s can go to Fedimian party missions.
“If you want to go priest3 you are better off with the chaplain build.”
But I don’t plan to get exorcise, sacrament or aspersion… The main skills that i’m going for priest3 are lv10 mass heal, lv10 revive and stone skin.
Have you considered doing more ranks in Diev? R2 gives you the silence statue that shuts off most mobs as their basic attacks can be silenced for some reason. That said I haven’t seen the R3’s safety wall statue in use yet. I’ve heard it takes awhile to activate since you have to pause briefly on each of the 4 points around the statue.
That said having Res is still kind of nice. At least when you’re leveling in one of those zones that if you die you’re sent back 2 maps. But I can’t help but feel like priest is a trap. There is nice damage amp for leveling… But I don’t feel like Bless and Sac are going to keep up as the game keeps getting bigger… Late into 280 or even post 280… Bless just isn’t going to pull weight unless we keep getting more ways to proc it. More time spent doing multi-hits… Or more abilities like enchant fire that cause it to proc on autos.
Take Cleric 2 and you’re already half way to full support. If you want Priest, go C3, it’s a must and then Chaplain or Krivis. I would suggest Krivis though since Chaplain is a dps type.
Next step, you have to decide which support type, in your case, I would say go full survivability. Therefore, Cleric C2, Priest C3, Krivis C1 and then Plague Doctor.
Those skills must be maxed as a much: Heal, Divine Might, Max Heal, Revive, Stone skin, Daino. Resurrection lv3 is enough, PD is new so I still have no idea yet, but Plague Mask is a must.
If you are going full or high SPR don’t forget zalcai from krivis… Scales alot with the atribute.
To stay in-line with what it looks like your builds are doing, have you considered:
Cleric > Priest > Krivis > Priest > Priest > Chaplain > Plague Doctor?
Or others, but, the important thing to remember is that as a support the absolute worst thing that you can do is constantly overwrite your teammates buffs. Just because you can cast a million buffs doesn’t mean your party will always want them. Nearly everything in the skill trees that you’ve selected is a Tier 1 buff, taking up that top bar that so many people use for their own buffs.
And in the C3 Priest Chaplain route you’re basically guaranteed to overwrite anything and everything, even your own buffs, constantly. Because there will be other party buffs from other sources outside of only your own cast buffs.
Don’t forget; they’ve also invested into their skill trees and likely have a few maxed attribute and max level self or party buffs they care about.
Daino Scrolls (at lv5) cost about 4k atm and it likely won’t fluctuate much lower than that given the alarming prices Pardoners have to pay when crafting scrolls. If you want to be able to cast every buff that you’ve specced into, without pissing off your team and killing their own buffs, you’d spend roughly 40k per dungeon assuming the run is about 30min.
Taking Krivis for Daino will also help in the future when we get more ranks and everyone and their mom will have even more self-buffs and party-buffs to bring to the table. That buff limit is going to hurt more and more as we progress into higher levels. Additionally the high SPR values of Priest skills fit comfortably into an amazing boost with Zalciai which, at 5 points invested, will give your team a minimum of 140+ Critical Attack +your SPR stat.
Even a well-organized party cannot balance all their buffs accordingly. Let’s say you talk it out with your party and you end up skipping a couple buffs just so everyone is within the limit. A) if you can’t cast it then your points into the skill have been essentially wasted B) not everyone has the same buff limits and C) self-cast buffs that are temporary will still overwrite, i.e. your amazing Stone Skin that is saving the party; well your C3 Wiz C3 Ele just lost 2 buffs by casting Sure Spell and Quick Cast, so now her Stone Skin is erased even though everyone talked the buffs out beforehand and she crumples to the ground spewing gems like a bedazzled pinata.
The best, and the quickest and smoothest runs I’ve had, all have been with at minimum a C1 Krivis. People constantly look down on Daino thinking all it can do is pad the team a little with their less useful buffs like the Wizards being able to cast Reflect Shield or something. But by R7 is it too far-fetched to think that every teammate will have at minimum 2 buffs, party or self, that are important for them to cast? Without Daino you will be on player’s toes the entire ride with as many buffs as you’re able to bring to the party.
Going this route you lose Divine Might (takes up yet another buff slot lol), 5x2 Heal Tiles (but as you have Priest you’ll have Mass Heal), and 10 blocks on Safety Zone.
What you’ll gain is 140+ to your party’s Crit Attack, a useful debuff against enemy crit resist, Daino with +6 additional buffs (no more stepping on toes, more active buffs for more overall benefits), and a decent HP Recovery/Fire Resist buff because why not.
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Taking Krivis for Daino will also help in the future when we get more ranks and everyone and their mom will have even more self-buffs and party-buffs to bring to the table. That buff limit is going to hurt more and more as we progress into higher levels.
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Exactly for that reason I went Krivis and not Chaplain in my Full support guy.
going priest3 funnels you into hard support, at least with chaplain you can do some DPS with a minimal investment into aspersion.
Your call though 
EDIT: Unless you go monk afterwards.
Why are people so stuck on Pd for full support ?
Diev 2 seems almost more valuable than pd to me but im leveling in a slow play group and havent reached higher levels yet.
Healing factor alone makes them godlike for support. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
Kabbalist is just as good if not better thanks to ein sof, which will turn your tank into a literal tank.
healing factor is self only unless you bring al inker.
nope, you put it on the ground and anyone can walk on it.