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Where is the archer rework?

+21 bow trans 10 isnt a good example of a class because less than 0,3% of the game has is? Also you realize hes using most of the time falconer skills, right? Mergen can be easily replaced by anything.

Also no one is asking for rework for cannon, appraiser etc. We want a real QoL for Fletcher, rouge, sapper… More diversity.

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Funny thing he posted a video about the archer meme build. Everyone knows QS3-Falco3-Mergen it’s a insane build atm. He probably didn’t read the post

Oh god please stop with the rouge thing guys. :smile: I’m getting awful flashbacks to the beginning of the game when everyone was constantly saying class names wrong. :unamused:

It bugs me the whole time reading this topic too lmao. Its Rogue guys…

Its really wrong if the whole archer tree needs heavy funding to be strong enough and enjoyable enough to do game contents. And it cant even go further than any popular builds with the same heavy funding. 80% of the chars in my lodge are archer, so yeah.

Play the game. What class do you thing the meme AA Cleric class is based on? Yep, it’s centered around a Rank 2 class. How are you going to build a Krivis Taoist? Yep, the entire build is centered around a Rank 2 class. Try building a Slash-damage based Shinobi. What are you going to need for it to work? Yes, Double Slash (Swordsman, a Rank 1 class) and Moulinet (Highlander, a Rank 2 class).

Stop moving the goalpost. You’re still missing the point saying those classes are great when the best they offer is just one single skill. And even if Barrage synergizes well with Feint, it’s only a filler, you can’t pretend that’s part of your main source of damage.

Play the game. WL2 awful? LMAO. Yeah, that’s why WL2 was never picked for R8 builds, though Drain and Trail are indeed awful skills, even with IMC’s pitiful attempt at reworking those skills, but the rest of the kit was worth it taking the circle 2. Inquisitor2 is actually decent in PvP, that’s what that circle is for and that’s the role that class is being focused on. You’ve probably started playing ToS recently, that’s why you can only give such few examples and wasn’t even able to recognize the “Rouge” jokes in the topic.

Mergen isn’t a great class, it’s Falconer that makes pretty much any Archer class work well. You can take BM, Cannon, Musketeer… They will all perform well as long as you have Aiming and Circling.

And since it’s so hard for you to understand the purpose of this topic, let me explain it for you. The fact that there are Archer classes that are in a fine situation doesn’t justify that other classes remain forgotten. You can make a class tree rebalance just by fixing a few classes, you don’t need to rework the whole tree. Even some of the reworked classes in the Wizard tree had only one of their skills changed, so that could be done to Mergen, for example. But at least Hunter, Ranger, Wugushi, Scout and Fletcher need to be reworked or have their issues fixed.

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Well of course you think Archer is fine. You’re a Falconer player and only knows about meme builds. You’re just the average arrogant player that only plays meme builds and thinks it’s above all people. But turns out you’re wrong in many things you say.

I’ll just point them out to expose your embarassment when you tried to sound smart.

Using an offending tone is all you have. I can only pity you at this point.

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Ok dude i will put this in a way you can understand:

Good Archers Classes:

  • Qs
  • Falconer
  • Sr
  • Cannoner (so so)
  • Sr
  • Musketeer (after rework)

Bad archer classes:

  • Ranger C1-C3 (please open your eyes, no one plays ranger atm except for sr because they dont have more options)
  • Wugushi
  • Hunter
  • Scout
  • Rogue C3
  • Fletcher
  • Mergen C2 and in general Mergen without Falconer

Don’t you see majority of the tree needs some love and not just a couple?

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“People dont record videos proving how bad a class is means that class is not bad” and “it doesnt happen to me/i dont play that class so the issue is not real/correct”.

You link a post listing AAR sources that includes a bunch of must-have expensive stuff for a build to be viable, just to prove that AAR is readily accessible for any type of player in this game. And in case you plan to play ignorant again, imma point it straight, Phada, Frieno and lv10 Centaurus cards aint affordable to casual players. Eww, just eww, seriously. I dont think anyone should waste their time when this guy himself doesnt want to understand a thing.

Now counter me with “if you are not rich to invest heavy funding/buy everything, why you play archer anyway”.

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hey, no double queueing, you sneaky SR!!
putting debate aside, it is lovely to see so many archer lover in this thread beside me

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Are u still playing scout c3? I would love to play it again

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the 5 overheat of split arrow is killing my old playstyle. Remove the overheat and i will instantly reset to scout3 again. I even forget that i used to oblique shot all the enemies in dungeon 50. i missed good old days.
But i still hold the basic Idreamy build as a template for my archers build until now: A2R1Sc1rog1(+falc1 for r1-6)

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Hmm im having a Scout 3 Falconer Mergen too. My Split arrow (lv50 attribute) is okay outside for doing Q and hunting collection, but it deals scratchy damage in dun so it doesnt come much into use. Flare shot is delicious against boss. I guess Scout 3 is a fun build, but its difficult to get serious even with funding. I just love the concept of a wild hunter in nature which Scout3 Mergen exactly fits in.

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I love how you quote the 3 expensive sources of AAR ignoring 3 other sources in that thread that are cheap and readily affordable (squire alt, alchemist alt, vubbe gauntlet)

Cherry picking is all you can offer. Pathetic.

Scout3 here,
If you really want to go scout3, make sure that you have enough aoe or dame from other ranks.
Bullet, SR, falcon or cannon or something else i dont know…
I really hope they will give back the no cd Split Shot, nobody want to go Scout3 because this, and do something with Bounce Shot and Spiral Shot for ranger.

p/s: Split still good too if you want to lure monsters or low-level-map.

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summoning @Tiaaa as an expert scout3 player. Are you still playing?

Well can you always get a Sorc companion to party up with? And do you think 2 AAR from Vubbe gloves can be a game changer? If the answer to both is no, shut up.

I love how you didn’t even bother putting BM on either list.

Like, if you can’t even list all the archer classes, or even bother taking the time to look them up, why are you even trying to have a discussion about it when it is clearly over your head?

Vubbe gloves + squire food + alchemist pot = 8 AAR

Easy, cheap, affordable, game changer.

Congratulations on being yet another person who is wrong in this thread.

I always thought a good buff to bounce shot would be an attribute that grant every shot a chance to bounce again. And spiral arrow definetly needs something like 5 overheats.

Lol, you are gonna pass over the discussion just simply because i forgot to put bm there? Please child, stop embarassing yourself

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Instead of paying attention to the overall idea that the comment is conveying, he only looks for little things that bug him (even when the things already mentioned are not wrong) and point that out, emphasize it, then proceed to skip the topic. Look who is best at cherry picking and being pathetic here.

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