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Where is the archer rework?

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#1

Really, archer is by far the worst tree in the game right now. If you are not a falconer3 you’re pretty much screwed compared to other dps in other trees. I know archers already have a “rebalance”, and musketeer looks great after the revamp imo, but men, they forgot so many classes.

Ranger : Currently has only two skulls that worth it. Steay aim and barrage and the last one only works with rouge. Steady aim not even that great.

Hunter: Has ok skills but the AI still garbage

Scout: There is litteraly no reason to take C2 and C3. The only skill worth it is cloaking and there is no reason to go higher than lvl5.

Wugushi: Not so bad but still lacking in damage

Rouge: C3 is pretty much dead outside some hacka builds

Fletcher: i know it’s supposed to be a high single target damage dealer, but in this game that means bosser and fletcher can’t compete at all against other bosser characters like murmnobi or goon 3. The only aoe skill is crossfire with a clunky hit box. Really needs some love.

Hackka: Hopefully with the rework of fake multihits hackka could shine

Mergen: So many useless skills. Insane sp costs, arrow sprinkle doesn’t land sometimes, lacking on decent attributes.

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#2

Hunter: Has ok skills but the AI still garbage

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#3

u still dont get the company’s logic? make a certain sub class be the identity of the whole class

#4

Naaa, IMC intends only AA builds in archer remain viable. rest all other remain trash.
ifever there is more rebalance, you will see the classes you mentioned getting some AA-■■■■ synergy.

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#5

ur not a shinobi? then ur not a swordsman, not falconer = not an archer, u dont have a cleric in ur acc? then u deserve to die-//slapped

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#6

No love for SRs.

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#7

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I saw a strong one.

#8

Ez crash channel. Just kidding xd

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#9

SRs deserve NO love. >:[

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#10

Most archer skills cant even be used by late ranks. As a musketeer, Im only allowed to use oblique shot, swift step and kneeling shot.

They did make a good improvement changing Falconer because early on, if you wanted AoE the only thing you could do is pick falconer in ANY RANK OR COMBINATION.

But Hakka uses TOO MUCH sp, Mergen is too stuck to play, Hunter has its AI problems, Scout has tons of useless skills, Ranger has a low duration buff and barrage, which requires (maybe) Rogue… Rogue C3 is 100% not worth and finally Fletcher…

Fletcher is the crafter from archer tree, needs specific arrows for every skill and still, the damage is TOO LOW. I don’t know if they tried to balance its damage using the overheats + skills being used accordingly to atk speed but, lol. I don’t even remember the last time I saw a fletcher ingame.

#11

Archer realy needs a rework, they should be top priority for balance right now, but if you have a HUGE load of money they are still the best class for endgame, Hacka, SR, BM and Falco/mergen are in an good spot if you can invest

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#12

This thread is ridiculous. SR is great, falcon is great, QS is great, ranger is awesome (how are you gonna hate on a 10-20% skill dmg boost???), rogue is great in a non traditional sense, appraiser is great, sapper is great, cannon is quietly one of the hidden powerhouses of this game and BM is ridiculous. How am I seeing people in here saying mergen is bad when videos like this exist:

Sure, the other classes could use some help (especially hunter & scout), but making it sound like the class as a whole is in dire straights and in desperate need of an overhaul is ridiculous.

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#13

Hahaha, so majority of people in this game is retard because everyone except for you think a bunch of archer classes are utter thrash. Ranger great? Are you still playing this game in 2016? Rouge great? Sneaky hit is great, rouge not. And sure, everytime i raid i see mergens outdpsing murmnobis.

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#14

Was going to respond seriously then realized you can’t even spell the word rogue correctly :rofl:

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#15

Lol, rouge the bat.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think of hackapell build? Rouge the bat C2 or C3?

#16

Only referring to PVP archers:

  • Almost all CCs archers have are ignored by oracle/PD skills, the only one CC that work is the Leg shot from hacka but it requierment of a Pistol makes it a problem more than a solution <_<
    (Some wizz combinations have more CC and more damage that the entire archer classes X_x)

  • Fletcher Bodkin point skill only removes reflect shield from wizz, fletcher can be a great class as a debuffer for pvp if that skill removes more shield type skills.

  • Archers needs different weapon if you choose some classes and the weapon restriction are very annoying, in the other classes only swordsman need more than one set of weapons.

  • Scout’s camoufage and Pavise from QS need to block magic, are the only defensive skills in the archer tree, and the only defense option from archers are High Dodge or High Block and none of that works against magic.

  • Falcon attacks, hunter pet attacks and sapper traps/detonate trap CANT be linked with the archer, makes no sense getting frezze when a cryo recibe a falcon attack and the archer frezzes miles away, or with a sapper trap a Kabba uses R7 and the archer recibes the damage. same with QS caltrops, all these attacks count as melle thats why…

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#17

lmao

No one’s asking for good Archer classes to get buffed. Anyone with a half brain knows that SR, QS, Appraiser, Sapper, Cannon and BM are great classes. You’re wrong about Ranger and Rogue though. They’re not good standalone classes. What Ranger adds to Archer builds besides Steady Aim? Or Barrage, if you have Rogue in your build. What’s Burrow good for? What’s Rogue3 good for except for the extra points in Sneaky Hit and Backstab?

If you’re implying Archer tree doesn’t need a rework, try to defend the current state of these classes:

  • Hunter
  • Wugushi
  • Scout
  • Mergen 2
  • Fletcher
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#18


SR is in a good spot. :>
#19

Actually sorc and necro will benefit a lot from having a masinios rod and shield or primus dagger with high spr roll along with a high matk staff. :tired:

#20

Got news for you buddy. Rank2 and Rank5 classes aren’t meant to be good standalone classes. If you want classes to carry your build that’s what ranks 6-9 are for.

The lower ranks are solely there to build into your playstyle defining classes which are rank 6 and up. There are plenty of examples of this. SR. Musket. Fencer. Cannon.

Rogue and ranger are top notch utility providers that happen to synergize together as well.

Name one other rank2 that can reliably provide a 10-20% damage boost to every other skill you cast for the rest of your build. Let’s walk through them. Cryo/pyro? Nope. pelta/highlander? Nope. Priest/krivis? Nope, although priest and krivis can both provide some nice buffs, neither of them can come close to matching 10-20% raw scaling. QS? nope.

Huh, guess that makes ranger pretty great. And we’ve already established in this thread how good sneak hit is, especially now that you can’t get crit rate from stats.

I specifically mentioned that these two need help, try reading my post next time.

Not every circle of every class is going to be great. Warlock2 awful. Inquisitor2 terrible. Falconer2 literally the worst circle2 class in the entire game. And that’s just off the top of my head. One of the things that makes this game great and fun is the variety.

I’m sure when rank 10 comes around mergen3 will come with a bang to make up for an extremely lackluster circle2, as happened to falcon & warlock.

In the meantime, the fact is that mergen1 is great and the class does not need a rework.