Make it a grind game doesnt mean that should sucks. Make it better, improve the game, that’s what they are suppose to do. If 3x exp a 177 player need 10 hrs grinding for a level, i barely think u’ll be able to reach 600 before u stop playing this. No matter how much u enjoy the game.
Dude, we are in 2015.
The game may be a grinding game, or kind of, but NOT THAT GRINDY.
There are moments where quests simply vanishes and force you to grind, one good example is the Monastery, you discover that you are way too underleveled for the place because there are not enough quests, and when you look in the web, you discover that there is a grinding spot a few maps ago.
As I said on another thread, there should be other ways of leveling up the character.
you have to understand, ToS was in NO WAY meant to be Ragnarok 2,
the creator of ragnarok is also the creator of ToS, yes. but it was never meant to be ragnarok 2
and even if people say ToS is the spiritual successor of ragnarok 2, it is only because of the artstyle and feel of the game.
and if you think ragnarok wasn’t a grind based game? lmao, go back and play on a x1 server for ragnarok.
what you do in RO 1 = farm, grind, socialize.
basically what most mmorpgs are
Ragnarok Online was easier to level up (on pre-renewal, renewal is now botting), also, remember that this is Tree of Savior.
Beside this is not a Ragnarok Online 2, there could be other ways of progressing, since
a number of different kinds of players will be playing it once the open beta comes out and ahead.
Wake up call and straight up insults are two different things. You need to tone down .Besides It’s not a matter of fact you made assumptions taken out of thin air.
You insulted him for absolutely nothing. Some made up things that you supposedly think “you can read into”.
While for all you know he could be just presenting a theoretical scenario.
Now you’re just trying hide the fact that you just wanted to be “edgy” , I guess you weren’t suspecting backlash.
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i play this game 3 hours days and weekend i not play, I must have written something wrong sorry my english is bad, " i meat I do not want to play 10 hours for one level.
Ehh?
Speak for yourself pleaes.
Yes, i too have an job and i am working.
But heck, i enjoy leveling and grinding.
Get together with a friend or someone you like to chat with.
Make a party.
Go to an area.
And grind together.
I leveld like this in Ro.
“LFP As Priest. Take me anywhere you want. Talaktive people requirement.”
I found new friends, some which i only lost contact with after years and years later.
I still know two of these, one nice (married) french woman and a Australian Homie, which i visited 2 years ago. When i was in down under duo work.
Ohh and yeah. Everything goes alot better if you have either people to talk to or set goals.
“I want to try to do this … or get better then this.” Is what makes me strife … and these grind games so addicting for a few hours here and there.
:… I told myself "No … i wont grind alot in cbt2 … " … i made 4 different swordmans up to +70.
Three archer around 80 … one 110.
Two mage class and a cleric krivis, priest mix.
108 hours … okay, about half of that is afk farming xD. As long as the grim reaper of afk isnt in, i will get the money for testing purposes.
The only part you could consider an insult came with the explanation in the same sentence: he was complaining using the job and life card when he’s outleveling no lifers. Either his post was a joke, and therefore clown isn’t an insult because he’s clowning around, or those assumptions are true. By calling it an insult, you’re implying he was serious.
I didn’t expect someone to try to enable dangerous behavior. It’s not healthy to neglect your job and family, and the way you’re getting so upset and defensive about that fact is worrying.
How could you get to level 177 at that rate?
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I’m getting tired of seeing this. Where is the source for either of these claims, that aren’t based on speculation? The 600 max level rumor is off of data-mined maps instead of any post or hint by IMC. As for the ‘promoted as a grinding game’, that’s being done by you, the playerbase, which is mainly used in a negative context than it is in a positive one.
They’ve been working on this game since 2011; do you all HONESTLY think they’re going to make grinding a core aspect of it, over Questing & Dungeons? Maybe in the late levels when you’re in the final 25% of hitting the cap, but they’re not going to scare customers away (paying or non-paying) since a game companies main goal in the end is profit.
tl:dr,I mean too lazy to read all posts in any case someone mentioned ingame something regarding mob experience,something along the lines of “it should scale with our level,so the higher level we are the more exp mobs give” ,don’t take what I just said as a fact because I’m not even sure myself if it’s true,it’s just something I remembered someone said ingame.
In other words the grind is supposed to be lowered than it currently is EVEN with the current x3 rates.
If someone can confirm it would be helpful :3
No the rates currently are the same as KR rates. The only difference was previously (pre-wipe kCBT3 extended beta) there was very high exp events, and scaling exp. This is not the case currently.
Here we go again the “I’m the only person with family/work/responsibilities so the games to slow” post, guess what everyone that isn’t a child has those things to deal with as well. People need to stop using that ■■■■ as a argument. With that said the games repeatable quests should reset each day, and there should be one ~15-20 lvls or so that way you get a few cards with your grind.
PS: FatePGN FOR MOD!!!
Now you’re just looking for justifications for your own terrible actions.
i dont get your post what are you trying to say?
oh and to answer your question;
the grind is the fun; the way is the goal
if you want to be as unerpowerendgamewhatever, go play a different game
Be careful OP, you have invoked the anger of the no-lifers.
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It’s time to grow up mein negger, I’m 30, 8 years RO1 vet, and i’m not QQing, you wanna drink all the milk so faster s:.
Maybe you need to play anything like club penguin or league of autism for filthy casuals.
hahaha man 1 a 110 is easy, now try 120+
I feel like the main problem right now is that grinding is just killing mobs over and over, that can be fun for some ppl but not for most of them, and if there are no/small amout of players the game will shut down. On the other side if they make it the “0 to max lvl in 3 days” game it will suck as well and the fun part of finding new friends while exping together will be lost.
It would be awesome if they add something to make the grind more enjoyable for everyone, NOT REMOVING THE GRIND just make it more fun. add some events that will randomly happen it can be just “kill 100 bad guys” or get more field bosses and give player some bonus exp for that so it will be worth competing in those events and i think that if wont feel as repetetive as grinding.
There could also be some rewards for playing in party(special exp zones, bonus exp for party etc.), rework spawn/exp rates of blue aura mobs, make enemies drop exp cards or add some super extra 0,0001% rare drops(i know there are some rare drops right now but they are worth getting only for specific level or class) so we have some other resons to grind except leveling.
If we have grind thats rewarding and fun i have no problem with exping half a year to get max lvl (i respect some fo you want the game to require at least a year to get max lvl but cmon its 2015 (sadly?) that just wont work even is the grind was fun)
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120 isnt bad iv heard 170 is where it really hurts because the zone have poor spawn rates but i haven’t gotten to 170 on a char yet i have a tendency to hit 120-150 range then try other classes as im not really interested in anything beyond rank 5 currently
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