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What will happen if player don't back even after re-balance

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#76

That seems a little childish. I don’t see why this needs to be adversarial, we’re not mortal enemies locked in combat or something so stupid. I just asked to see the evidence, what’s in that thread doesn’t directly link bots to scar.

I really don’t see what the problem is. Swarzneggar was banned, the bot operator.

The others, while being friends with a botter, aren’t really evidence of themselves also botting.

If you have evidence of a person botting of course you should post and report it so IMC can deal with it.

#77

You are bad informed. Multiboxing means controlling multiple boxes (vms/windows) at the same time through one interface which is btw also against the tos.

But a full automatic macro to clear DP/Dina Bee without human interaction is a robot hence called bot which is not only against the tos but also despised by players.

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#78

This isn’t true. We had this discussion in another thread where I was corrected by multiple people.

It led to me messaging support about it asking and clarifying. I’m still waiting on an official answer.

I’m not “bad informed”.

#79

It’s childish when many people tell you they were botting and you insist claiming things that you obviously don’t know.
Let’s see what Scar did:

He was often in the same party of the botters (free silver, free powerlevel). He talks like one of the bot owners. He exploited free TP together with these bots, he left thenineworlds to join nyakawaiidesu for that purpose. When IMC changed GVG rewards, he went back to thenineworlds.
Even if he wasn’t running bots himself (and I seriously doubt he didn’t), he took advantage of the situation.

Also, you should realize that behind Schwarznagger’s bot there are several people.

He is right. Multiboxing originally meant literally having multiple computers running the same game and controlling both with keyboard/mouse duplicators.
Now it can be done with software. Still it’s requires 3rd party software and it’s not allowed.
Multiboxing =! multiclient.

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#80

Leave the moron alone its not like it matters.

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#81

No he’s not. I literally almost the same thing he did about multi-accounts and boxing, just a few days ago, and I was corrected by other forum members when I was heavily warning people not to do it as it might still be risky without getting an official up-to-date answer, even though it is not listed in the tos. I am still waiting for a response from IMC to get an up-to-date answer on what their official position is, screenshot of my ticket to IMC in the thread.

Tl;dr: Nothing in the tos says it isn’t allowed, hence why I contacted support to verify and get an actual official answer we can screenshot and spread around. They’re taking their time figuring out what the response should be though.

#82

I just read up on multi-boxing, for most MMOs it isn’t really illegal though. It is in a grey area.

Software based multi-boxing is indeed against the tos though, since they do need some form of software to capture inputs from mouse and keyboard in order to mirror the inputs into the multiple clients. Hardware based multi-boxing isn’t really against tos though. No where in the terms it states that a player is only allowed to have 1 account running on a single computer.

#83

This is what multiboxing is:

#84

Thanks? I already know what multiboxing is. Did I say it was anything else anywhere? If so it was unintentional.

#85

Simple yes/no question:
Does Multi-clienting or Multi-boxing offers any unfair method usage advantage over other players that doesn’t Multi-client or Multi-box?

#86

The way you come into these threads with your opinions seems to suggest otherwise especially with statements like:

“You do not even play the game why are you here?”

“I do not understand why people come to the forums and complain. They should just quit the game if they do not like it.”

Always coming into threads like a bully with other people making arguments saying others are not right. Then if you are proven wrong you never can admit it or be reasonable on any level saying sorry.

Keep leading the game in the “right” direction like you think with these suggestions and arguments. Then just be like huehuehue say truth or I report you troll as always.

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#87

Multiboxing yes. You can’t naturally control multiple clients with one keyboard, like you see in the video and you can’t do that having the game only or more than one computer.
Multiple clients, controlled manually one at time no. Anyone can do it without the need of 3rd party software and even without having more than one computer.

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#88

Can you elaborate on how anyone can do it without the need of a 3rd party software and without the need of more than one computer?

That seems to not be the case.

Normally only one steam instance can run in the system.
ToS doesn’t start if you have another instance of it opened.

#89

What do you think I should apologise for?

Accusing me of being a bully is somewhat entertaining. If you feel bullied by a girl disagreeing with you on an internet forum then you should probably get off the internet.

It isn’t my problem if much of what is said is disagreeable. Disagreement is not bullying. Nor is calling you out for saying that you don’t play the game, you’re the one that keeps bringing up that call-out though. I brought it up once, perhaps twice? You’ve brought it up again on top of that 3 or 4 times now. I understand that getting so publicly called out for that nonsense must have stung but there comes a time when you should let sleeping dogs lie.

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#90

Then, considering the lack of answer on how to multi-client within the allowed environment without any changes or usage of external tool.

We all can agree that both Multi-boxing and Multi-clienting are against ToS terms of service:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/common/?t=ts

You may not acquire illicit gain through the means of deception or unfair methods.

Case solved.

#91

I forgot to add “in some operating systems”, but that’s irrelevant. You can run as many steam clients as you want under linux via wine.
Jesus you don’t give time to smoke a cigarette dude, give me a break.

And if one has two computers or uses linux to play, that’s not unfair. Just in your head it can be unfair like multiboxing.

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#92

Then you are using a 3rd-party tool that isolates both environments and brings unfair method usage advantages compared to players running on default systems.

I repeat myself then:

You may not acquire illicit gain through the means of deception or unfair methods.

#93

I cannot believe of all people this joke paragraph came out from Awoooo. Very disappointed.

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#94

Then report yourself since you play under wine emulation.

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#95

Keep it up crying trolls and bait to every single forum user that disagrees with you. It is going to get you far when all the new players come in making those new threads about the same old problems.

Then after people start to out number you pointing your flaws of being actually negative yourself and a broken record just say what you just said here too.

You came in here acting like IMC fixed bots and exploits. So are you saying when the population grows again and people find the old ones never fixed you’ll carry on saying the same stuff shamelessly?

Then just keep telling them to quit. A real smart individual you are for someone who falls into the group of individuals that think the community is toxic and negativity kills the player base.

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