Is that 50 total or 50 invested? If it’s 50 invested then that is a lot of DEX lost already. Take advantage of the levelup event for the free stat reset if you don’t want to reroll.
Sad to say it’s 50+ STR invested as per the Stat Viewer addon data. If even I’ll re-roll, would a high DEX Swordsman C1 > Peltasta C1 > Barbarian C3 > Doppelsoldner good? Because right now, somewhere in the back of my mind that Hoplite isn’t I really want. Since I’m quite new to the game and still getting what I really wanted to play.
What I want is something that can crit hard with skills swordsman class and can also play PvP somewhere along the way.
regardless if you reroll or not. Go as much points into Dex as possible.
50 STR is not too much waste, since it will give you some block penetration, that might help you in rank 8 content. but regardless, you can just compensate that by 1 green gem in off hand (shield works too) for crit rate and call it good.
Another option would be to get two sissel bracelets and that would work too.
50 lost dex will result into loss of about 60-65 crit rate. you want to get to around 600-650 to crit as much as possible (beyond is a waste right now)
I see, but if it was you and wanting the ideal build. Would you go full DEX until you hit the 600-650 crit rate? Because I’ve seen swordsman classes in videos having full DEX and they got past very high level without even investing in CON.
Sorry if I sound like a sissy asking so many question about wasted points or something like that. I’m the kind of guy that can’t sleep at night knowing I wasted a single point on something, not a good way of living life, but can’t help it. Hahahaha!
My dragoon is full dex, curently lvl 294. I have 24k hp.
How was it for you leveling? In my case, I don’t have any friends that play ToS so I play solo most of the time. What gets me is when a map has mobs that uses magic, having no CON and only DEX.
Well I had geras spear and It is pretty easy to solo with it. Get a didel tower shield near geras and put 2 red gems in it. You will have no problem.
I’ll keep that in mind. Should I focus yung Leather Attribute for evasion since it is a full DEX build?
I have all 3 armor attributes leveled on my dragoon (it is 319) 50 Con rest in Dex (just in case meta changes someday)
I wear Grynas top and bottom (with 2x yellow gems in each)
Mdef swordsman boots with 2 blue gems and Demonas gauntlets.
Most things hit me for 1 damage, unless magic. Magic still hurts a little but nothing that can not be remidiated with pew pew pew (kill or be killed)
How much time (and money) can you dedicate to this hoplite? You’re pretty much a candidate to take advantage of the level up event that gives out a stat reset potion in the end.
If you want to push thru with this you’re gonna want a geras spear. It’s gonna be expensive.
Evasion really only works when you have the hp to take a hit when it happens and a way to heal back up fairly quickly. There is also no “+10% eva per rank” like there is for def and mdef.
Btw, why dopp1? You already have 0cd [spear throw].
When will that event be up? And about Doppel C1, I just don’t know what to pick as a filler class before Dragoon and I just read that Deeds of Valor might be useful to me since I will most likely to be hit often.
What do you suggest getting as a feeler? I’m thinking of Swordsman C2, I already max attributes of Concentrate and Gung Ho at C1 and going C2 won’t give me much. Also thinking about Cataphract for the mount and mobility. I just don’t know what to pick.
Edit:
I didn’t saw that the level up event you gave had a link. Thank you very much.
I ask because def right now is very powerful.
It’s easier to get and does amazing things to increase survival. DoV at lv5 takes 50% of that away for just 50% more min atk (that’s the effect: the 10% atk per stack affects min atk only). It also doesn’t affect crit atk (you will be using yellow gems so that’s some lost potential right there).
DpE got “fixed” (without it ever being advertised as a bug) so no more double xp on missions (yeah can still kinda do it, just harder to do).
As for the dps skills, there is o cd [spear throw].
If you are keen on taking DoV, by all means stick with dopp1. I just hope you know what you are giving up for what you are actually getting. Here’s something to read if you want to go with “taking damage” for DoV stacks. Also this item helps to stack DoV. The damage from the poison tics triggers DoV.
Rough calculation
Lv 300 give 313 min atk
Geras +7 161+72 min atk
2x red gem lv6 on didel shield give 290 patk
Total 836 min atk which resulting 418 patk gain from DoV lv5. This can increase more with 2h spear, necklace, bracelet and hair acc.
Furthermore DoV after maintenace will reduce 10% penalty to 5% which means 25% pdef reduction.
@c2gaming.seetoo given that amount and DoV new update, would you still won’t recommend doppel1 as filler? Cos I’m making the same build as OP, sw1 pelt1 hop3 dopp1 dragoon2 and you have an interesting point.
I would say it boils down to “tolerance”. How much damage are you willing to take? On the 1 hand I have experience with having 800hp regen per sec so not reaching the def break points is ok. On the other hand I also have experience with 800hp regen per 20 sec but only taking 1 damage at a time.
Also, DoV is still on ly a “min atk buff” unless the new DoV affects max atk as well. Is 50% more min atk worth losing 25% def. I personally think it is in leather (specifically the shade top n bot) or cloth, but not in plate. It’s not about recommending or not recommending DoV. It’s about knowing what your trading and being ok with it.
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Got it, thanks. Now I won’t feel much lose on doppel if I feel like replacing it to something else.
What other viable options are there for SW - PELT - HOP 3 - ? - DRAGOON 2 in your opinion? if doppel isnt worth it
Centurion if we could get it back 
Just take any as utility/filler as every filler brings different things in your build. Your main build is still HopGoon. I would say either below filler is safe option for your build.
Doppel - DPE, DOV - extra damage and drop
Corsair - Hook, Jolly Roger - farming and PVP cc
Swordsman 2 - longer Pain Barrier, Restrain
I’d go Sw2 if I’m not using Blazing Golem card. Knockback is such a problem to maintain your DPS.
Other class than above, you really need to experience playing one to understand what they can bring.
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Corsair got really better as filler, now Jolly Roger acts like a soft swashbuckling,depending on respawn rate it’s even better than swash
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doppel
dpe > jolly when leveling
blue mob = whao