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But but my dex corsair is dps ( i outdps archer in mission ( sometimes )
Well guess still good ā¦ i guess ā¦
Lower damage means more hit ā¦ to pillage
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DWA gives you lower damage already. With JR @ 10 you can steal things pretty fast.
As someone stated, % numbers on Guardian is actually a buff. No DPS oriented swordsman build should get Peltasta as itās a Defense type class. Like DoV, Guardian should be used on some situations rather than all the time. I like all the new changes to sw so far.
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@haukinyau
Indefatigable
Persistence are we ?
I can reroll but i will just end up frustrated and end up hating the game ā¦
So i will wait for for reset stats
( so i can 100 con all dex my corsair atm i got 50 str invested huehuehue )
I will not change my dex build ā¦
Reason well high ping i cant always do awesome maneuveri need dex to auto dodge it for me ā¦
Will i can make new class ā¦
Alchemists damn the pots are expensive ā¦
I wonder who died
I said full con not because of damage. You made me LOL. Full Con comes first because he will be the last one standing, the point made was about survival if you donāt move and facetank eating damage. Str and dex will die first. (once you die you reset to 0 agro)
Crazy Tree thinks otherwise, no amount of praying will prevent it from hitting the f out of you at some point if you donāt dodge.
Siaulai isnāt a worldboss but ok lets use this as an example. Iāv been partied with a dex swordie, heck i was a dex swordie, i would still get hit hard.
You should stop assuming stuff you donāt know if you canāt even understand the point i made in regards to facetank when you were the one who brought it up lol.
Iāv played both High dex and High str. Only one i havenāt played is Full Con.
I will repeat for future Shinobi, DO NOT TAKE FULL or HIGH DEX. (reason being once you open clones your evasion doesnāt save you and you will still die as if you were a str, so make the most of damage while dodging).
If you are some other build then discover on your own whatās good for you.
this another proof as why I say you donāt have any experience in DEX-built. Full CON actually takes more damage than DEX built when full CON isnāt holding C -unless they are the type who just sit and hold C all the time - and DEX-built will hold aggro as they continue to diss damage
wellā¦ I doubt that since I am sure most DEX-swordie here can vouch we have easier tanking experience against bosses and less boring than holding C.
Getting hit hard doesnāt mean anything, it goes with the job as swordman. If you cry from getting hit play as wizz.
I tanked that tree when I was unlucky and got partied with 24 lvls above me, as the lowest lvled and only tank without cleric (1 wiz+1 arch+1 sword)
- the average lvl for the rest of the party is the only 5-10 lvls above me, and the highest lvled char that triggered the conditions left as soon as he knows he successfully draw low leveled char -
I got One Hit Killed whenever an attack landed, only died 3 times. I never abandoned my post as the main tanker
My best record is 27 level above mine.
at some point, not most of the time.
Meanwhile, your STR sword must dodge as many as possible or be a noob and stand there take hits.
- PS : You are one of those Hoplites who put some point in DEX then abuses Finestra without having guardian up arenāt you?
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ehmā¦ one of them is me
(I need to edit that line btwā¦ didnāt come out like it should)
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I have a sordie myself no need for me to say the obvious why I dwell in here right?
and yes fuk you not because you play a swordsman with a dex build but by being so butthurt when Iām not even dissing you.
huehuehuehehue
canāt rate how good it is because itās mine LOL
well finestra gives high crit rate so thereās no need to max finestra, stabbing and pierce takes precedence
- finestra 7 already crit quite alot -
Stabbing becomes like a semi shield ( since it has evasion attribute) so most of the time not only I dodge tree/golem/mole/poata I also diss good damage to them
Pierce also act like a semi shield (also has evasion attribute)
3 : 3 : 1 STR - DEX - CON(but I stopped putting STR manually after 70 something and CON will only be 40-50max)
warning : you only have 3 active skills : lunge > Pierce > Stabbing until rank 6 - Doppleās Cyclone
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mine is SW2>Hop2>Pelt1>Dopp actuallyā¦ I took SW2 for restrain/concentrate/pain barrier
Anyway, I think R5 has 3 choices, going Hop3/SW2/Cor1 has its plus and minus
disclaimer : hereby I donāt endorse anyone to use this build
whatāve I told you can be said to everything else.
what odds? I believe at first people lean more on dex because you have crit for offense and evasion for defense with accuracy to booth and now what why most of the people prefer str now?
so what makes it special again? just because there are few who still prefer dex build? donāt make me laugh.
youāre free to do what you think is good for you thatās how you enjoy games anyway
and again assuming that I skip reading the whole thread makes you more retarded for even suspecting that Iām saying that dex build is rubbish
I hope you notice that youāre the only one who got offended to what I said to you and this isnāt because I replied directly to you.
huehuehuehuehueā¦ 
How is this any proof that i have no experience with dex? Did you know Full conās secondary stat is DEX? yes they have mild dodge and high hp. Like i said once again talking about something you dont know. Also you mentioned you got 1 hit killed 3 times.[quote=ārdance.doe, post:190, topic:314111ā]
got One Hit Killed whenever an attack landed, only died 3 times.
[/quote] This proves that my statement in facetanking goes to a full con and YOU were the one who said it not me.
As a str yes you have to dodge, if you facetank you are doing it wrong or confident in your gears or have those priest green floor tiles.
Again assumingā¦guess what, i donāt have Hoptile in my build. Kindda embarrassing yourself there arnt you even after mentioning over and over that iām a Sw1,HL3,C2,Shinobi? Also iām talking about being str yet you mentioned putting dex in my build ? lol shows who hasnāt been reading now doesnāt it.
I fought a Prison Manager Prison Cutter as a High dex swordie at the time being level 220 (Corsair 2) and yes i did dodge afew hits while standing still but eventually i too had to move around to avoid getting damaged too much and holding agro just like a str swordsman running around as how you so elaborately put it (a party of 5 consisting of 2 archers a mage an other swordsman who came later on)
Back to the topic. I would like to say this. Dex Swordies are newbie friendly as someone mentioned before<<<this statement is true HOWEVER (noticed itās capslocked) some class may perform better with dex until proven otherwise (i say this because i havenāt played all swordsman style so i cant slam all dex swordies) such as fencers who iāv noticed talking mostly about dex being the primary stat.
But here are the classes that you SHOULD NOT go High / Full Dex. Corsair 2, Corsair 3, Shinobi. ( some mentioned dopples and other class but iāll just stick to what i know for the purpose of this topic)
But my opinion and you are free to disagree is that dex swordsman newbie friendly but they are terrible and donāt contribute much not only in Pve, Worldboss but also PVP. There is no point if your role is just to āsurviveā without dealing really high damage unless you are the āTankā then thatās an exception. (For those who say a dead dps is no dps, you do realize you can always respawn and come back dealing dps right ? in which point you would have done more damage then a dex built swordsman also please note that you shouldnt be dying and should be evading and hitting)
On a final note to this topic the only point of dex in a swordie is to add dodge to your tanker. (again you may disagree or agree but this is solely what i believe)
Iāve shown my calculation in an earlier post regarding being dex and str shinobi: As a dex i couldnt even do half the damage seen in this video below but after switching to high str i now can.
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This is must be what they called advance stupid.
No before Itos open up for free user dex was more favored when I was doing my research while waiting for the game tosbase isnāt the only site I look up for information.
I laugh because how you got triggered not because its something I disagree with
If anything youāre the one who needs the attention of a doctor and an English teacher.
And yes it was an off topic reply that was just an itch that I wanted to say I never expected a salty reply though but I guess it was worth it 
Youāre acting what pinoys are known for on gaming I hope you know that.
Huehuehuehue